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Has anyone had any luck putting an Old Man EMU Wrangler lift on a pre '71 CJ-5? I have a '56 CJ-5 that I want to put a lift on. I've looking at the SkyJacker 2.5" for my year of Jeep, but I just talked to a guy who put the EMU Wrangler lift on his 85 CJ-7. Any suggestions? This Jeep will see little street time and my goal is take on Moab, and survive.....d8^) TIA...hube

'56 CJ-5, 283, t-90/t18, 27/44, 2.5", 33's
 

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Sorry this doesn't answer your question.

My cousin has a completely stock '58 CJ-5. We are about to start building it up. Can you give me any tips on parts, modifications that are documented, websites for older CJ-5s.

Thanks,
Tom

85 CJ7-4.2L,T-176,D300,2.5"lift,32"BFG MT,Durabak,York-Air,HEI
 
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One thing I've found out is tht lockers are hard to find for thes 19 spline D44's and the D25(7?) up front. LockRight has been the only one I've found. I got a suggestion by one of the other BBS members to upgrade my rear axles to the 30 spline D44's and then put a Detroit in it. Right now I'm just going to run it as is and put some money away for a later install. Does your cousin have the 4 cylinder or the V-6? I've read that T-90 3 spd (most common tranny for these years) isn't a very strong tranny to put any serious (200 HP) in front of... I still have my T-90 with a mild Chev 283 for power. I haven't had it out on any trails yet, so I can't speak from experience on the strength of this tranny. The stock military spring pack aren't much for flex or ride. There's definitely more people out there with more experience with these older Jeeps. I can't help much, but I'm willing to research and ask questions. Are there any local clubs with some older Jeeps in them? Hope some of this helps. Maybe someone will answer me back about the YJ springs and we can both learn from it....d8^)

'56 CJ-5, 283, t-90/t18, 27/44, 2.5", 33's
 
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I have a 19 spline Detroit. The T90 will hold up to very very mild V8's. I had a T90 behind my V6 for several years before I spun the main shaft. I now had the perfect excuse for the wife to put in a 4-speed. (I'm sure I wasn't on the gas to hard!) If you need to rebuild it, don't waste your time. You will have to be very careful!
Sam

 
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My local 4by shop can't find the 19 spline Detroit in the books anymore. They remember seeing them in '98, but they haven't seen them since. I can't find any out on the web either... Who did you get yours from?

'56 CJ-5, 283, t-90/d18, 27/44, 2.5"(soon), 33's(soon), cage.
 
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Sam,
I see in your bio that you've got the SM420/d18 combo in your 5. How hard was this install and did you have to have any special adapters? I'm not getting much luck on responses for my Wrangler spring question, so I'm probably going to bag the OME springs since they don't make anything for an older (but d##m capable) CJ. Sorry, I had to vent a little bit because I'm sick of not being able to find many lifts for this year of Jeep. So far the SkyJacker is looking like the best for the buck, but I don't know of anyone (personally or web) that has installed this kit and/or can compare it's ride and flexibility with the other kits out there. I like the thought of the National Spring spring packs, but I have no idea on a price yet. Their 800# was busy. Rock crawling isn't very popular here in southwest Idaho (lack of rock trails), so many of the local Jeeps are set up for mud or hill climbing. I'll keep pluggin' and searching for any info that I can find.. Thanks for any info you can provide on the SM420. They are fairly plentiful in this area so it's a candidate for a future 4 spd. swap...

'56 CJ-5, 283, t-90/d18, 27/44, 2.5"(soon), 33's(soon), cage.
 
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hubeid, I had the SM420 in my old 70CJ5 behind the 225 V6. From Advance Adapters I got the different input shaft for the SM420
and the adapter to the D18 xfercase. Pretty simple to install. The SM420 is virtually indestructable behind the V6 or a small block
V8. The suggestion you got to install the Detroit with the 30 spline axles was excellent. I had this and pounded the snot out of the Jeep
and never broke it.

Gary
 
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About the springs:

I honestly know nothing about messing with a jeep such as yours, but I have worked on many freinds jeeps and spent countles hours on my truck. But if you are looking at running wrangler springs your main problem is the fact that they are a different width then the springs you have now, the wrangler springs are more then likely a bit longer to. This means your going to need new spring and shackle mounts on the frame and also new spring perches on the axles. This sounds like a lot but in reality could very well be cheaper then national springs(I also understand OME springs are rather expensive to) many of the name brand suspensions offer soft lift springs for he wrangler which would work well on your jeep.

Jeff
'83 Toyota long bed
5" lift, YJ front springs
 
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Thanks for the info. I sent them an e-mail to get more info on this "kit". Thanks again....

'56 CJ-5, 283, t-90/d18, 27/44, 2.5"(soon), 33's(soon), cage.
 
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I've been talking with Jason (via e-mail) at Mile High and he said that this kit will be available in 2 to 3 weeks. He also said that the actual manufacturer of this kit is 4Plus out of Utah (no # given). Jason was very helpful in answering my questions. Thanks for the POC (point of contact) BHT! I hope that this can help some other CJ owners out there as well... I'll paste in what's in the kit:

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The kit should be available in 2-3 weeks. There will be one for stock steering and one for saginaw steering. It'll fit '55-'71 cj 5's. The flat fender kits are already available. Mark put it on his '43 GPW. It is entirely bolt-on (drilling required). Not only do you get YJ springs but, you get a shackle reversal as well. Mark used BDS 2" YJ springs and RS9000's. The jeep appears to have approx 3-4" of lift. You can use stock YJ springs if height is a real issue. Mark's 33x9.50 BFG's fit nicely. It has the best ride it has ever had and we fork lifted (sorry, no ramp) the tires... 23" front and rear. This is with new springs. He may get better results when they break-in and if he goes with wider axles. For reference, the picture of my jeep on our web page shows my rear tire being fork-lifted to 33". By the way we're not the producer of this kit, only the retailer. The kit costs $495. Four BDS 2" YJ springs cost $258.96. RS5000's are $38.99 ea., and RS9000's are $68.99 ea. U-bolts are approx. $27 per axle.

Thanks,

Jason.

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'56 CJ-5, 283, t-90/d18, 27/44, 2.5"(soon), 33's(soon), cage.
 
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