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Windshield Wiper trouble.

1.3K views 9 replies 4 participants last post by  Junk Yard Genius  
#1 ·
I have been trying to get the windshield wipers to work on my jeep for a few weeks now. The windshield wiper motor that I have on the windshield I am using was an unknown when I started rebuilding the Jeep 2.5 years ago. Now I am putting the finishing touchs on the Jeep, and getting the windshield wipers to work is a real thorn in my side.

As part of the rebuild I removed ALL of the factory wiring, and replaced it with a brand new Painless kit. I wired the existing wiper motor with a new switch to the painless harness. The switch I used was a simple on/ off switch. My intention was to have just one speed (max).
When I got the jeep running and tried to use the wipers... as soon as I hit the switch to turn the wipers on.... The fuse for the wipes in the fuse box popped! I checked all my wiring, replaced the fuse with a new one (15 amp) and tried it again. Same thing happened. Switch on... Fuse blows.

So, I figured that wiper motor I had was no good, and that there was a short in it. So I ordered a brand new wiper motor, and a brand new switch... (the switch that matches the motor I have)
So, last night I wired in the new motor, and switch, hooked the painless power lead to the new switch, made sure I had a good ground on the new switch.... Fired up the Jeep. Turned on the wipers..... And POP WENT THE FUSE !
The wiper motor didn't even make an attempt to move.

I am stumped, and it would be excellent if someone could possibily clue me in on what I might be doing wrong..

Is a 15 amp fuse just too small?
Is the wiper motor intened to be used with a relay?

For refrence, the New wiper motor I have is a direct replacement for an 83 CJ, with a 3 wire pigtail, and a 3 wire switch.

I thank anyone who might help me get this figured out..
 
#2 ·
Low speed is the green wire, high speed is the red wire, and park is the black wire which should be hot all the time the ignition is on. Ground is through the case to the body.

You should be able to supply 12 volts to the red or green, but to both simultaneously or grounding any of the three will probably blow the fuse.
 
#3 ·
Thank you very much Jim.
It seems that I ether did not read my wire diagram correctly, or it wasn't correct. I thought that the wiper motor was grounded back throught the switch.
As is often the case, I was wrong.

I think I understand what I need to do to make it work with my simple on/ off switch.
I hook the Red wire to my switch, the other side of the switch would go to my 12V supply. I would feed the black wire with a constant 12V source.... When I put the switch in the ON position, I should have wipers...
Does that sound correct?
 
#4 ·
Well the fuse is 20 amps but I don't think 15 is too small. I think they would give you a lottle more leeway on that.

Here is a picture of the 3 wire motor, just ignore the toggle switch setup.

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Thank you very much Jim.
It seems that I ether did not read my wire diagram correctly, or it wasn't correct. I thought that the wiper motor was grounded back throught the switch.
As is often the case, I was wrong.

I think I understand what I need to do to make it work with my simple on/ off switch.
I hook the Red wire to my switch, the other side of the switch would go to my 12V supply. I would feed the black wire with a constant 12V source.... When I put the switch in the ON position, I should have wipers...
Does that sound correct?

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That's what I get for taking to long finding the picture I want. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif yep, sounds like you got it figured out now.
 
#7 ·
I have an additional question, and I didn't want to complicate my last responce, so I started a new one.

I am wondering if someone can help me out wiring the windshield wiper motor with the new "factory" switch I have.

My new wiper motor has a 3 wire pig-tail on it. There is a connector on the end of the pig tail that connects right to my new switch. (It will only fit one way)...

There are 2 other "connections" on the switch. I had assumed that one was for 12V, and the other was ground.... I was wrong.

Can someone tell me how to hook those other two connectors so that I can use my new switch?

If both of those connectors require a 12V source, can I split the single wire in the painless harness, and feed both, or am I asking for trouble if I do that?

Thanks again.
 
#8 ·
The "other one" is for the windshield Washer pump. Usually a yellow wire. REverse these wires and the wiper only works when the switch is pushed in. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I have a picture some place but if you have a continunity meter you can turn your switch to "ON" and see what wiper motor terminal makes contact with the extra terminals. the washer terminal will not make contact with any other post unless you push in on the switch.

Does yours look something like this?

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#9 ·
Thank you very much John.
That is exactly what my switch looks like, and your insturctions are 100% clear.
Looks like I am going to have windshield wipers again in no time.

Thank you very much for your help.
 
#10 ·
I just went through this and John is dead on the money.

Here is a tip...
When you are installing your new wiper motor, run a ground wire under one of the mounting bolts.
Run that wire back into the dash with the other wires and hook it to a good ground source and you will have a lot less problems with your wipers.