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What's "EEC" ?

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Raduckal

Discussion Starter · Mar 4, 2000

What\'s \"EEC\" ?

In reference to the TFI coil we've been taking about. I'm sure this is a dumb question, but when I ask for it at the parts counter, I can already see the guys head tilting like a dog hearing a funny sound. So I better at least know what EEC stands for.
Thanks Larry

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dorfs

· #2 · Mar 4, 2000

Re: What\'s \"EEC\" ?

That is Fords name for their "electronic engine controls" system. (computer) Most of them are EEC IV. (4)
TFI is their name for the ignition module, it is a method of manufacturing called thick film intergration.
PIP is their name for the stator in the dist (hall gate), which means profile ignition pickup.

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CJDave

· #3 · Mar 4, 2000

Re: What\'s \"EEC\" ?

/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif when I saw this question posted, my moonguys/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif all said:" I bet dorfs will know that one!"/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif Well, do these moonguys/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif have it pegged, or what?/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
I never believe any statistics unless my moonguys /wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif made 'em up themselves.

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Raduckal

Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 4, 2000

Re: What\'s \"EEC\" ?

/wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif I'm sub-dorf... ouch

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13337

· #5 · Mar 5, 2000

Re: What\'s \"EEC\" ?

*dorfs* is correct about the EEC.
He blew it on the TFI.

*dorfs* wrote,
*TFI is their name for the ignition module, it is a method of manufacturing called thick film intergration.*

TFI is Thick Film Integrated, and it's a manufacturing process for making ignition coils, not modules.
Check the Borg Warner web site, they show manufacture or Lucent Technologies Tech site, they developed the manufacturing process for the coils in 1971 while they were still Ma Bell.

If Chris Columbus "Discovered" America (with 25 million already here), Can I Go "Discover" Florida?

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· #6 · Mar 5, 2000

Re: What\'s \"EEC\" ?

I don't know, TeamRush... I believe 'dorf' is correct on both counts..... TFI is the acronym for "Thick Film IGNITION"..... and is usually followed by the term, "module"..... I'm no engineer but I think its job is to switch the current for the distributor.....You are correct that TFI is manufactured using THICK FILM INTEGRATION....or HYBRID electronic assembly involving very miniture electronic components and the printing of electronic circuits using conductive or resistive and dielectric inks....When technology firms began using this as a means to increase board density, the term "thick film INTEGRATION" crept into the lingo..... THICK FILM techniques were married with the traditional foiled and through-hole component circuit boards and you ended up with a small but powerful little computer box.

In today's vehicles, TFIs and their non-Ford/Mercury equivalents, are no longer a separate module, but their function has been integrated into the powertrain control modules.

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13337

· #7 · Mar 5, 2000

Re: What\'s \"EEC\" ?

Correct, but circuit board electrical engineers around here call the actual board work THIN film.
It still carries the TFI designation.

I hang out with a bunch of engineers that work down the road, building everything form missile parts for the military to most of the anti-lock breaking systems used on American cars today...
It's cool to see those guys design a circuit on the computer, and the 'printer' actually be able to make it in few minutes...
It's also cool to be able to bend and fold the circuit sheets!
I sure couldn't do that with the old, 'U print them' circuit board etching on bake-A- lite when I started! Makes me feel old...

They are a fun bunch of guys if you can pour a few Coronas into them...
(if they drink Zima, they are too geek even for me to hang out with...)

Laminated coil technology was developed during WWII, but Lucent made it affordable and reliable in 71.
As the story goes, Lucent first developed the technology for making light weight, reliable transformer coils for some military project that got shelved when Nixon got busted, so when the military funding stopped, they pitched civilian applications, and Motorcraft was a taker.

The GM HEI tried to achieve the same output levels without the new technology, but as we all know now, was just a little too fast to production, and a little too short on engineering...

If Chris Columbus "Discovered" America (with 25 million already here), Can I Go "Discover" Florida?

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