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I won't even try to touch on the gun subject again........for all I know someone has already sent me a letter bomb (those damn socialist pinko commi Canadians eh)/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif!

I've got a question, purely out of curiousity (and totally has nothing to do with Jeeps, but you guys are making the rules here, and it seems you don't have to keep it to Jeeps anymore, which is a shame, but what the hell eh!).

For all those gun owners who are afraid of the big bad government and believe in the absolute right to bare arms bla bla bla.......it's getting so boring........bla bla bla........

What do ya'll think about the legalization of marijuana?

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If it was legalized, you could get it in hydroponic menthols, lights, reds, mediums, and skunk ultra lights. Maybe a pack of reefer 100's.
I'm too young to sue for smoking, but come on Phillip Morris with the jointettes. I need to be part of a class action baby!!!
PS. I personally don't touch the stuff. Beer is my poison.
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/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif In my opinion that would just be one more nail in the coffin of this society. As if we don't have enough trouble with DUI drivers killing us, we need more stoned out dopers on the highway, in the workplace, and in congress? Not on MY watch, baby!/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif

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Tough call. I agree with cj dave about having to contend with stoned drivers, but living up here in michigan i know law enforcement working in lansing (msu) issue tickets (yes tickets) to someone smoking a joint on the sidewalk. I don't exactly how much the tickets are but I know they are less than a ten over speeding ticket. I work in the prison and if a prisoner is caught with some dope, he is in some serious trouble no matter what amount. I personally don't touch the stuff and would like to see it remain illegal. Just my two cents. ken


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I dont know,
It might be kinda helpfull.
It could help the Junkies take the edge off of a real good Heroin or Crack Cocain buzz. Possibly steadying their nerves and allowing them to hit whatever the f#@%$k they are aiming at. This could be a big help whenever they are having one of their drive by shooting activities.

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I wasn't implying that it should be legal, just that the tobacco companys would be on it like stink on sh|t(not mine, it doesn't stink/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif according to my Jeepchick). The toll on civilians would probably be immense from traffic accidents and any other interactive activity where one or more parties is baked beyond reason.
Just would create more problems for this country. eh hosers?
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I have spent to much of my time and all my money to help
two drug babys .
Noway could I say yes.
Try crawling around the drug world at O dark thirty and see
if that pistol on your belt don't feel good.

 

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Back in 88, I was working in the yard at the powerplant, Heavy Equipment everywhere, When a 300ton maniwalk (sp) started booming down. Half way down he lost the boom and bounce 200 foot of boom on the asphalt. About 50 feet where I was working. The operator prove postive. Legalize wacky weed, fine with me, just legalize justify homicide too. I do not want any crackhead within a mile of me.

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Hay Jo-Jo you must like the off topic stuff to to start
a off topic thread eh./wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif
Jo-Jo I think your a nice young man so don't that it hard.
BUT things are bad enough here the 10 yr old kids are getting
kicked out of school for pointing there fingers at each other
playing cops and robbers.
When we grew up we where taught to shoot strait and tell the truth.
 
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Thought I'd get a few more responses to this, but...........

So let me get this straight then........

It's OK to "kill" someone if you "think" they murdered someone else (death sentence).

It's OK to walk around with a loaded gun (a lethal weapon that could be used to kill someone in a heated moment etc etc).

It's OK to drink your brains out.

It's OK to drive after drinking as long as it's under a so called legal amount.

It's OK to smoke tabaco.

It's OK to poison your body in numerous other ways.

It's OK to kill animals for "fun".

BUT......it's not OK to smoke pot........Hmmm.

All this talk about "freedom"........seems to me there is a double standard goin' on here. You guys can have your guns, and alcohol and tabacco because it suits you, but gawd forbid anyone light up a joint in the privacy of their own home.

You guys are so paranoid about the government, I would have thought you'd be smart enough not to buy the bogus propaganda the government shoves down your throat about drugs (marijuana in particular). I guess not........seems you choose to allow them to pull the wool over your eyes when it suits you. I bet they even have you thinking that Oliver North (America's #1 drug dealer) is a hero too./wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif

I for one would much prefer to be on a road full of stoners, than a road full of drunks or armed drivers. It would certainly be a lot safer (obviously the prefered choice is a road full of sober un-armed drivers, but it's not a perfect world)/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif.

Yes I do smoke pot occationally..........yes I have done many other kinds of drugs. Not afraid to admit it, even though it's nobody elses business. Just trying to make a point. I'm a decent humanbeing that has never hurt a soul, and never would! I'm not a herion adict (smart enough not to even try that crap), and I'm not a gang banger (not all black people are evil), and I do my best to contribute to my community. Yet, if I was in most states and caught with a small amount of marijuana, I would be sitting in a jail cell. Where as if I was drinking a micky, and had a hand gun in my shorts........I'd probably get to go home, have a beer and make snide comments about the so called "gangbangers" on one of those stupid cop shows.

I break the law by buying and using a little pot every once in a while........guess that's makes me evil........I'd bet my Jeep that if they really did ban guns (it would never happen so I don't know what all the fuss is about anyway) you guys would be breaking the law so fast it would make your own heads spin.

Drugs aren't evil........if they were then alcohol and cigerettes would be banned too. If you think pot is worse than booze or tabaco your gravly mistaken. Pot didn't kill my father, tabaco did. Pot didn't kill my friend, alcohol did. Pot didn't kill my grandmother, tabaco did. etc etc etc.........

I rarely drink, I don't drink and drive, and I don't "kill" things for "entertainment". But according to some of you I am scum? Legalizing pot is "one more nail in the coffin"? Give me a break. Come on, think about it a little deeper than that. Use some of your own defenses for gun ownership. Drugs aen't the problem, just a symptom. Bring your kids up right and you have nothing to worry about. Don't bring them up right and you have your problems. I like to think that my parents did all right with me......er, that is apart from the fact that I smoke that evil weed, that one day will turn me into a herion adict, and then a mass murderer..........ya, right............come on..........

If you think the day after they legalize pot someone is going to be forcing your 2 yr old to smoke a joint.........you better grow up and grab a brain (sorry, that wasn't a nice way of saying that......all I'm saying is "think" about it). Obviously pot should be regulated like booze, and so should guns. No one is saying ban guns. Ok, well some people are, but they're just as stupid as those who say that there shouldn't be any regulations at all on guns.

I used to shoot targets, and will probably buy a gun in the comming years to do that again. I would also like to carry a rifle when I go on long trips into the bush. That isn't a problem. I have to get a licence and I have to know how to use and store the weapon safely. What's wrong with that?

I also like to smoke a little reefer every once in a while. Mostly I use it as medicine these days. I spent a week in the hospital a couple years ago. The drugs they gave me made me sick........I let myself out of the hospital believing that I would heal better at home. I smoked pot when the pain was too much to bare, and it worked great without making me sick. And I didn't go out and rob anybody to get my fix!

I should be thrown in jail for that?

My rights are not as good as a gun owners?

I smell a double standard a brewin'........./wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif

BTW, I might not agree with ya'll on many subjects, but you're all great Jeep people and I respect you all for your wisdom about Jeeps and for our shared interest. Just don't go starting any civil wars (that's just plain stupid), and if you do..........leave us Canadians out of it please!/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

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Jo-Jo,
I got your back on this one..

Id rather dirve with stoners anyday than drunks or gun packing radicals

Ive smoked my share of spleef..everyday in high school, then I just realized I was tired of giggling and squinting...

everyone in this town smokes POT, big wigs in teh local governement, school techers..its very commune like, and Ill tell you its pretty damn laid back..

I havent smoked any in years, lots of my pals still do, over here all of the time in fact, its common place, I just choose not to.

I really think it should be legalized, it could generate tax income, and more importantly it would put those columbian bastards out of business...

people are smoking it legal or not, why not make some $$ on it and quit making other countries rich over it?

the only thing I can see is that somehow our government is profiting from the fact that we cant grow it...HMMMMMMM

I have a buddy that tosses seeds out the window everywhere we go, his plan is for it to grow EVERYWHERE!! haha



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[note] Jo-Jo.....that's the same tired speech that dopers have been giving the rest of us since they made San Francisco's Haight Ashbury in to a public "turn on" machine. Somehow, I didn't expect to hear it from you, but at the same time I know how devoted to dope people can be. It never really changes. You probably weren't even born yet when Art Linkletter's daughter walked through a plate glass door and was killed; and you surely weren't born yet when my good friend Pat Wroten visited with her hippy sister in the Haight and took just a teeny tiny amount of some strange stuff that well.....they took "All THE TIME"......stuff that blew her mind out so bad that she had to be hospitalized. And when she wouldn't respond they decided to send her home to Boise to the folks. My roomate was giving her a ride to SFO and on the way she stepped out of the Austin Mini-Cooper onto hiway 101 and ground off her foot before Bob got a hold of her sweater and dragged her back in. Two weeks later we ALL took her to the airport and she went home to Boise. She shot herself a week later, and you know what, Jo-Jo.....Pat is still dead. So don't tell me how we kill with guns or all that other crap. Just go to a damn prison; like the one where Vickie has to work every day and see all the burnouts that will NEVER be productive people again. And go to Sunset Magazine and take a good look look at the desk where Pat worked before she visited her.."We take this ALL THE TIME"...sister. The LAST thing this country needs is more people on drugs. If life is so painful that you just can't stand it, why not give God a try? Salvation is free, and it will be a lot more beneficial than trying to top last week's high. One thing about it, you Canadians won't have to worry about gun-runners hauling armaments over the border to aid the insurgents in the upcoming US Civil war.......you people have already bought into the "Big Lie" by Tony Blair, Klintun Clone extraordinaire,and gave up your guns like whipped pups. Guns is good Jo-jo....drugs is bad/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif

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Find me ONE verifiable Marijuanna overdose..

ONE, just one

keep trying

Drugs are just like Guns Mr. Mellow

free to choose, both can potentially be deadly

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JoJo, you are kinda right in one respect. I am in local law enforcement and I'm on a permanent(?) loan to the court to run a special program in which all I deal with day in and day out is felon drug addicts. I would much rather deal with a stoner on weed than some guy that's been up on crank (our major problem here) for a week. All a pot head wants to do is kick back, the meth addict wants to kill you or at least hurt you very badly. So, my point, weed is not as bad as some of the other stuff, but it's ILLEGAL for a reason, it's still a drug, and just like any other drug has some very bad side effects (behavior, or lack thereof).

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Glad to see you are at least open to thinking about it bit Brad. Some people just seem so brain washed. I agree that some of the harsher drugs are not for everyone. But do you treat it as a crime or a medical problem. Throwing people in jail usually doesn't seem to work to well, especially when they can get the drugs in the jails. Maybe I should have used my words a little better (must be those lost forever brain cells), but I ment "decriminalize" drugs, not out and out legalize them. People can get violent from drinking.......if you've worked the street I'm sure your familiar with that. Why not make booze illegal? Why people think that everyone and their dog will all of a sudden become a drug addict if drugs are legalized or decriminalized I don't know. It's practically legal where I live and we don't have people jumping off buildings. Yes, some people have addictive personalities and can't handle drugs. I know lots of people who can't handle booze. And there are obviously certain people who shouldn't have guns either. Booze and tabaco are drugs too! Don't let anybody tell you differently. I feel bad for cops who have to waste their time on this stuff. Make an arrest if someone is being a problem, a danger to themselves or others, but other wise you should just give somone a fine (ticket) for smoking up in public. People who have problems should be handed over to some sort of social services type depeartment so they can be "treated" if they have a problem.

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/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif Gun packing "RADICALS"??? Was that an adjective that you just used??? An adjective FRESH from Klintunland??? Lessee.....gun packers are RADICALS....RADICALS wrote the constitution....(if you listen to the Scumbag)....therefore...(If you listen to the SCUMBAG).....the writers of the constitution were gun packers, and really bad people. Better sit up and take notice Oz....they've got you doing their work for them with all those adjectives/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif Go to the "Gun" thread and read the speech by the Scumbag where he uses the term "radical" over and over. He's "recruting" people to further his agenda by Labeling Devaluing, and Defaming those who he has made his enemies; INCLUDING the framers of the constitution; and getting his listeners to do likewise. Don't let the Scumbag make you a shill for his agenda. Don't pick up his rehetoric and help him destroy some of the best people in this country.

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nope,
i didnt get that term from anywhere other than 28 years of speaking the english language and knowing what it means...

in todays society, anywhere other than a hunting trip
if you carry a gun,no question about it, your a radical....

thats not the issue, though

Why are Drugs so bad and guns so good?
there isnt a statistic in the land ( bull**** or otherwise) to withhold that statement...

crank,crack,heroin,cocaine= drugs MOST people cannot handle

pot isnt in that same catagory, its tobacoo, basically, with more laughs

you guys are so afraid of the "great war" ( which is very Chuck Manson'ish I might ad, AHHHHH that explains the rascism!!! now I see!)

relax, it wont happen
seriously, you guys need some counseling or something...
and people think Im strange where I come from, you guys would never get out of here alive..haha



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/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif Er.....ah...sure..whatever you say/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif Pass the ammo/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif And ONLY white folks can come in here/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gifDamn! This thread got grim!/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gifJo-Jo....was this intentional? Just when it seemed like Ozk was veering right, here we are back at square one/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

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didnt mean to get Grim Dave,

look at this way, Im connected to you guys ( like it or not!)by vehicular association, and ill give you an honest opinion on what it "appears" to be like from some one looking in.

I promise your attitudes dont help keep any roads open, or any older Jeeps on teh road..

go and wash your white hood, lets get some sleep old buddy..haha


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ok. jo-jo maybe legalize isnt the best word. decriminalize would be better. pay a fine and go home. instead of costing taxpayers court costs and living expenses for a month while your "rehabilitated". for the most part, pot much less afects driving ability than alchy. by the way, id rather be in the company of a pothead than a drunk...simply because drunks are less predictable. also, this is not a slippery slope, pot does not lead to begger and better drugs. so decriminalize, not legalize (id rather NOT be driving on the same road as someone who has been roasted)...then again theres no way to ensure that a user doesnt drive while stoned (we all see how well that works with drunks)

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