[Guest]

This is some feedback for those that question the value of siping tires. It has been awhile since we have had anythig to shout about as far as real winter here in the Willamette Vally of Oregon. The past few days have seen 4 to 5 inches of snow topped off with up to an inch and halff of ice from freezing rain. I have siped all tires on my vehicles for over 3 years. I was totally impressed with the performance of my Bronco in this latest mess. Totally slick snotty ice and she moved through and around with much grace. Mind you, I used the 2 selection on my E4OD and used common sense but couldn't help but lay into sometimes with nobody around. Great traction! These are 35-12.50-15's. No chains necessary for the Bronco but it appeared that some of the real 4x4's (2 speed Tx Case) weren't doing so well without them and certainly the pseudo A

WD's had issues. Some of them were pick-ups and I understand the rear weight (lack of) issue with them. I like the weight distribution of my Bronco and do feel it was that and the siped tires.

 

[974]

Great! How much do you charge? lol. JK

 

[320]

I'll vouch for that weather, that was insane! OSU has only canceled a total of 7 days of school since 1858 and 2 of those were on tuesday and wednesday. It was quite comical to watch all the unexperienced snow drivers spinning out of control into each other. I also enjoyed the firework show provided by all the trees falling on power lines. Of course that created power outages, but I found a great way to keep my self warm and entertained.

 

[974]

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but I found a great way to keep my self warm and entertained.

[/ QUOTE ] How?

 

[1632]

are you sure it's safe to ask that question there Norm?

 

[974]

My bad. By all means refrain from answering that question on this fine familly oriented board. But PM me about it...

 

[86convert4wd]

But do you really want to hear it?

 

[320]

Pabst Blue Ribbon, how else???

 

[884]

Hi John, that weather was fun wasn't it?

Now, did you go to schwab or someplace? did you buy a tool? or the tough way, hand sipe (that was a BEETCH).

 

[1632]

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My bad. By all means refrain from answering that question on this fine familly oriented board. But PM me about it...

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I didn't mean it like that

, I meant are you sure it's something you wanna know

 

[974]

I was just joking. Sorry if I offended anyone.

 

[1283]

Oh, I am SO offended. I can't believe the train of thought some of you guys have. Its.....just like mine. You know someone had to ask the question. It just wouldn't be right if no one did.

 

[Guest]

Hi mark. Yes, I had the boys at Les Schwab do the siping for me. I thought about investing in a siping tool due to always having my tires siped even for my daughter's car but after reading what goes into it, I took the lazy way out. I have thought about using a groover though. More out of being able to buying a chunkier tire and playing with my own design and then having Schwab's sipe them.

I assume when I saw you in Salem a few weeks ago you were heading to visit your parents. Your ride always looks so righteous!

John

 

[1632]

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You know someone had to ask the question. It just wouldn't be right if no one did.

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very true

 

[884]

Thanks John, as does yours. every time I go down there, I seem to keep a lookout for you now.

I did not use a siping tool. I did it the really painful way....Industrial knife.

I do NOT recommend this for the faint of heart. One mistake and you've cut your carcass instead of the tread. It took me about 1-2 hours/tire. Like WD-40, I tried to keep the cuts to between 1/8-1/4 inch. How many cuts did I make? 360/tire, 5 tires.....
Yes, I am a Bronco Moron.

 

[1632]

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It took me about 1-2 hours/tire. How many cuts did I make? 360/tire, 5 tires.....

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now that's dedication! hmm...if you spend 1-2 hours siping your tires making 360 cuts on not one but five tires using an industrial knife....you might be a *******

 

[974]

Was it worth it Mark? I'd have bought the damn tool man. I don't think they cost that much and like you said. One small mistake and you are out a $200+ tire. Anywho. Was there any noticable difference?

 

[1283]

No difference, it just goes flat faster, right?

 

[WD40]

Just in case anyone wants to see how to do the siping manually, and where to get the tool...
Click here.

 

[Guest]

I remember going thru search and reading that WD. You are right on the money with the benefit of siping especially on ice. I also like that by doing it yourself you can avoid getting too close to the edge of a lug and making it susceptible to chunking. The other part too is that you can re-sipe the tire once it wears to the previous depth. Looking at it that way, I would be paying $24 a tire over the life of a tire to have them siped twice commercially. Multiply that times 4 and it sure would make sense for me to buy the tool and do it myself!