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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Subject:
Tellico Alert
Date:
Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:39:37 -0500 (EST)
From:
Stefan Roth <[email protected]>

Urgent message from David Borum to all Southern 4WD Association members:

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From: David Borum <[email protected]>
Subject: Tellico Alert

We need your attendance to help with the 10 year revision of Cherokee
National Forest. I have been sending these alerts so far to deaf ears. The
rolling revision is now being made by environmental groups not by you
because they SHOW UP for the meetings. Here's some of the things they are
wanting in the plan....since we don't show up to dispute them.......they get
what they want. Here is what they are asking:
1. Dehumanize the forest - no people
2. Forest Service to buy up all private holdings in the forest boundarys
(ever heard of imminate domain?)
3. Private lands that border the forest need to be managed by the forest
(not the land owner)
4. No timber harvest. (No harvest, no roads...no harvest, no small game...no
harvest, no deer,......equals wilderness)
5. Some hunting allowed in some areas (but you'll have to walk), primative
weapons only (archery, muzzeloader?)
6. Join existing wilderness areas to create a "wilderness coorador"
7. Motorized recreation.........NONE

ARE YOU SICK YET.....WANT MORE.....

8. Roads.......none
9. Existing Roads......close
10. Fishing.......to violent to exist in the tranquality of the forest

ON AND ON AND ON

If this is what YOU WANT keep doing what you are doing don't come to the
meetings. If you want to STOP THIS CRAP GET OFF YOUR REAR AND GET TO THE
MEETINGS!!!!!!! THE REGIONAL FORESTER HAS DIRECTED THAT EVERY FOREST IN THE
SOUTHERN REGION WILL FOLLOW THE PLANS THAT CHEROKEE IS UNDERTAKING NOW!

Is it over cut and dry???? NOT YET, you must participate now. Here is
when and where THE NEXT MEEETING IS:

TELLICO PLAINS, TENNESSEE
TELLICO RANGER STATION (RIGHT OFF RIVER ROAD ON THE WAY TO ohv AREA)
250 RANGER STATION ROAD
NOV.4 (THIS THURSDAY)
6-9 PM

Next meeting

Benton, TN
Old Ocoee Baptist Church
Zion Valley Road
Nov. 9
6-9 PM

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Southern Four Wheel Drive Association, Dir. of Legislative Affairsx
East Tennessee 4WD Club visit us at: www.tennessee4x4.com/et4wd 4
National Rifle Association (Life Member) x
Blue Ribbon Coalition 4
United Four Wheel Drive Association x
United 4WD Nominee For Environmental 4-Wheeler of the Year '96 4
Member of the "Land Use Network" x
United 4WD Environmental 4-Wheeler of the Year '98 4
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Stefan Roth
President, Southern 4WD Association
mailto: [email protected]
See our web page at http://www.sfwda.org

Grim-Reaper
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Re: You are a moron

here's a little wake up call for everyone: PUBLIC LAND AGENCIES MANAGE PUBLIC LANDS. if there was never any change in the way lands are managed, why would we need these agencies? the fact of the matter is that things change, and not always the way you like it. more people mean more adverse effects on the land. i am not advocating removing all recreation, motorized or not. but it is unrealistic to believe that everyone should have unlimited access to public lands to do as they please. you do have a good point about showing up to the meetings. i can also tell everyone from experience that whatever makes it in the forest plan is virtually impossible to change afterward. go to the meetings, voice your concerns, but PLEASE do not discount everyone else's opinions or ideas as ridiculous just because you do not agree. i assume the reason you enjoy your national forest is to be outside recreating in a somewhat natural environment. all the forest service is trying to do is find the best way to do that. i can assure you it is not an easy job.

p.s. there has been a road building moratorium in roadless areas of the USFS for a couple of years now. if you knew what the hell you were talking about you would have already bitched about that years ago.
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Re: You are a moron

Personally I couldn't care one way or the other, living here in Canada we don't have quite the harsh restrictions as I've seen and heard about down in the US. I kind of feel sorry for alot of you that are am-bushed by your Gov't in the closing of some really cool wheeling areas. The only closures up in my area consist of a gate which in a matter of a week or so there's a new route in anyway. I do like the idea of some of these OHV parks which you have to buy permitts for, as long as the money collected is going to the right cookie jar, not to mention that it cut's down on the amount of traffic and Snot-Nose punks torching stolen cars and dumping garbage etc.

Chris J.
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Spam, Spam, Spam GO AWAY!

This is the second pointless spam of the list. Go Away! If we wanted your drivel we would go to the right FORUM! ORV management is not the same as statutory wilderness. You are polarizing a fairly simple issue with your errors and outright untruths. We certainly need ORV mangement, because if we don't do it rationally, it WILL be taken from us.
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Re: Spam, Spam, Spam GO AWAY!

LOL~ I have to agree with ya while I'm laughing at your message, hilarious, I like it.
Question thought? Is it really necessary for these SPAM-guy's to write a freakin book report everytime they send one of these thing's? I think I wore out my mouse just trying to get to the bottom to read your responses!

Have a good one!

Chris J.
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Re: Spam, Spam, Spam GO AWAY!

What the hell is a "wilderness coorador" this guy needs to use the spell check. He also needs to give himself more free time

/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gifStraight outta Oregon, land of trees,ocean breeze, and a lotta mud!/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif
 
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