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So who\'s president?

I know, off the subject.

So who's president?

98% is Understanding it
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Well we've got two choices---either it's Big Al W. Bush, or we could have George Gore. Not much diference between the two. They are both going to be completely innefectual, so why not just flip a coin and be done with it?
It looks like that's what most of the country did in the voting booth anyway.

What--me cynical? Nooo

Andy
'70 Mighty Moe(not so mighty right now, but returning, slowly)
 
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Well, I was all jacked up on GDUBBYA but after all this crap, I ain't so sure. I hate Al Gore. He's a friggin'n bad machine. GW is just trying to wait out the storm. Just wish we could have prez that was somewhat popular.
That's my damned opinion!
Who cares?!?!
RQ

PROUD! member of the EASTERN CHAPTER!
 
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Staying on the topic of this board, I care. If the president doesn't have the House and Senate behind him he can only do so much, so Algore will be limited (if he gets in) to what he can do to our country, but I really fear the Executive Order. Look at what Clinton has done to Utah and other western states with land closures just with the stroke of a pen, and the congress and the people who live in and use those lands couldn't do anything about it. Might as well sell my Jeepster or put it in a museum if Gore gets in. (See, I'm on topic).

But it ain't over yet. Bush will still come out on top, I'm confident and my Jeepster will continue to have free range of the continent.

Joel F.
Marquette, Michigan
Project No-Bucks
http://home.off-road.com/~nobucks/
'68 Jeepster Commando
225 V6/SM420/NP205/Dana44's

'79 Scout Traveler
 
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Well said Nobucks!!!!
We will have to pray until monday morning that the added votes don't add up.
You can see the INJUSTICE of an democratic ruled supreme court in Florida. Maybe if we get a republican in control
this won't happen to our Supreme Court of the U.S.
 
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You mean to tell me that ALL those old ladies in Fla. can play 15-20 BINGO cards SIMULTANIOUSLY (sp), can't punch a single ballot correctly? ;o)

Bobster
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How 'bout a cure for all this election bull.

Nobody wins, letting everybody win.

Any time a law is passed it limits our freedom. When was the last time you heard of a law that GIVES you a freedom or right? They don't, they only tell you what you "CANNOT" do.

The founders of the Constitution wrote the Constitution setting up how the geverment will operate. After it was written they realized they did not give any specific rights or freedoms to the people, so they wrote the Bill of Rights, the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution. A few amendments since have also outlined freedoms, like women's sufferage, but some of the Amendments took away freedom, like the Income Tax Amendment took away your freedom to keep all you earn. Laws passed by Congress and edicts by the President only limit your priveledges as Americans.

We have enough limits now. When the government supposedly shut down because of budget stalemates what happened? Nothing, in fact it gave a temporary respite from more freedom limiting legislation.

Jan 20, when the current Presidency is over, put an answering machine on the White House phone. Send Congess home for a 4 year vacation. Close all the government offices. No wars will be started, we won't be invading any sovergn country to divert attention from sex scandals, the economy will prosper because people will have more money to spend if the government doesn't steal it. No lies will be told, no more pet projects, no more dishonesty. Let Washington shut down.

To keep the water pipes in the Capital from freezing, install a wood stove and burn all the comfortable chairs and desks in the House and Senate. The side benefit from that is when Congress returns, they won't be sitting around plotting against Americans. If they have to stand up during their meetings, they won't be in session long.

Then after 4 years, we can elect a pregnant person with dimples named Chad. We'll have to get a court ruling about hanging around 1, 2, or 3 corners. Hanging around a liquer store doesn't count.

In fact, we may like having Washington closed so much we will re-elect nobody again.

98% is Understanding it
"Don't Fix Unless Broke"
 
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Yeah, that's gonna happen.
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Like it or not, one of these two guys will be sworn into office in January. Bitching about it obviously isn't going to affect the outcome. I'll just pray for the best outcome, and whomever God wills to have in office, for whatever reason, will be sworn in.

And, again, on topic for the board, yes, I will keep my Jeepster until they pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

Joel F.
Marquette, Michigan
Project No-Bucks
http://home.off-road.com/~nobucks/
'68 Jeepster Commando
225 V6/SM420/NP205/Dana44's

'79 Scout Traveler
 
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Hmmmmm, let's see......paved roads, police, fire and paramedic services, legal protection for ALL regardless of financial means, (although don't get me started on OJ!!), Medicare and social security for my parents. Okay, so income tax isn't so bad.
Now let's see..........there's traffic laws (but only a true anarchist would disagree with that).
How about a foriegn policy and military that supports our interests. Free trade with China, India etc. would make our minimum wage for production jobs drop to almost nothing.
Speaking of the Economy.......Even the presidential budget does little to de-stabilize our economy. Greenspan and his buddies at the Fed don't get all the credit, but they sure should get SOME.
Land closures and gas prices are sensitive issues, but where is it written that we DESERVE cheap gas for our 10 MPG recreational toys.
We live in a country that allows us ALOT of freedom and jobs to help us pay for a pretty cool hobby.
I wouldn't worry too much about the president. Not that much damage can be done and mid-term elections will correct any imbalance between the white house and the congress.
Michael

1967 Commando SW
A labor of love, (mostly labor)
 
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It is win win for either side as long as we have a freakin president guys. I still back Gore more than bush, but it is win win either way. Bush is an idiot. Plain and simple, he does not have the experience to deal with government on a federal level, he has only been dealing with state issues. The legislative stuff is an ego thing that he does not have. His dad devoted his life to the government at a federal level, so why don't we just elect his dad? :) Damn good man. On an upside bush is going to suround himself with good people that will make the right choices, hopefully his dad will help him out a bit. Gore has the experience but it is not all good for us, but without the House and Senate at his side he is harmless, a rattler wihout fangs. Gore cannot make a law, he can only approve it, so like I said, win, win, we will see.

John
70 Jeepster with "Hurc package"
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You funny guy! ;o)

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John:
In reply to:

Gore has the experience but it is not all good for us, but without the House and Senate at his side he is harmless, a rattler wihout fangs. Gore cannot make a law, he can only approve it, so like I said, win, win, we will see.
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If they're both the same, then you should back Bush, because, everything else aside (they're both the same, right?) there are the land use issues. Check the executive order post above, and ask the people in Utah how they feel about executive orders that circumvent the House and Senate.

Joel F.
Marquette, Michigan
Project No-Bucks
http://home.off-road.com/~nobucks/
'68 Jeepster Commando
225 V6/SM420/NP205/Dana44's

'79 Scout Traveler
 
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John,
in response to:
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Bush is an idiot. Plain and simple, he does not have the experience to deal with government on a federal level, he has only been dealing with state issues.
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I think if you go back and look we've had quite a few successful presidents who came straight out of state governmental positions. Reagan was a two termer and very well liked president who was the former Gov. of California.

I voted for Bush simply because he supports more of the issues that I feel are important. While there is quite a bit of debate over who is more intelligent Bush or Gore, it doesn't really matter how intelligent a fella is if he's going to put you in situations that you don't want to be in. There's no doubt that Clinton was probably one of the smartest presidents we've ever had. IQ wise. He was a Rhoades Scholar and studied abroad. But we all know he has problems making correct and moral decisions. Just because a guy is intelligent doesn't mean he is imminently more qualified for a position.

I wasn't going to comment on this subject but I felt that something needed to be said for Bush. He might not be the smartest of the two. But then again he may! We probably will never really know. I do know that I've yet to hear Bush claim to have done something or invented something or innitiated something that in fact he didn't. So far the Bush we all saw and heard speak at the beginning of the election is the same one we have now. His message has pretty much stayed on target and not wavored much.

Time has run out on Mr. Gore and he just doesn't want to go back to Tennessee. But then again, I wouldn't want to go back either. His own state didn't even vote for him!

Just my .02 cents and they aren't worth much.

Gavin

And it's funny how Gore isn't concerned about all those ballots from the other 49 states that were thrown out and never counted because of some irregularity. I mean if he really was concerned that every American that chose to vote got his/her vote counted, seems like he'd like to go back and check on those to!

Kinda makes you say Hmmmmmmmmm!
 
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I'm surprised that he even got one vote. He claims to want people to be honest, if he really did, he wouldn't have voted for himself!

That whole bunch seems to ignore the law, unless it's in their favor. Look at his mentor, Clinton. He got impeached for lying to the public and the Grand Jury (not what he did with women, but for his lies,) but he ignored and faught the firing process. He should not have been allowed to continue with the Presidency. He should have been prosecuted and jailed. If you or I lied to a Grand Jury we'd be behind bars now.
Remember how so many folks said they hoped he didn't get ousted, because Gore would be President? They said he'd be so much worse! What now?

Is that what the people want? A liar?

Now the next liar in line, the guy that invented the internet and other big lies. He's lied about his stands on issues to the public, he says one thing and votes another. His voting record is a public record if anyone cares.

Now he won't obay the election laws. He's lost 4 times now, how many times does he want to lose?

What part of "You Lost!" doesn't he understand? And he's supposed to be intelligent?

If you ever read his book, you'd want to see him prosecuted for treason.

I'm really enjoying how Gore and Leiberman whine when they talk about it. Like any minute they'll break into tears and have a tantrum. Not just sore losers, cons.

The problem is, with that whole "bunch" mixed up in so many deaths in the last few years, like Travelgate, Whitewater etc. --
Of course it will be an isolated instance, like the Cole was. That one the news media finally picked up on, they finally realized that every time it got embarrassing for the present administration they attacked another sovern country without reason. This time people understood it was another ploy so they could get the country to ralley around them. It didn't work, they got exposed. We will never hear the truth behind that one.

Someone made the comment about the stock market. The economy has been fairly good, not "because" of Clinton and his manipulators, but "in spite" of him.

Look at the Dow - every time Clinton opened his mouth about anything, the market dropped. I've done well in the market simply by watching when he was going to make an announcement. Just before his speech I'd sell, after he scared everybody with his mouth the market would drop, I'd buy back the same stocks at a lower price. After awhile it would recover, then I'd wait for him to do it again. It almost never failed that pattern.

Remember, Gore has said many times that "a private person should not be allowed to have an internal combustion engine." What kind of engines are in your cars and Jeepsters? How would the grocery store get it's food? How would the farmer plow his fields? Of course if the gov't owned everything, they could do it. Think about it.

I know some folks will disagree with me, it's just my 2 cents too - if we get enough 2 cents we can buy a cup of coffee.

"They'll get my vote when they pry it from my cold dead dimpled chad."

98% is Understanding it
"Don't Fix Unless Broke"
 
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I am not trying to bash either one too bad, you have your reasons and I have mine. Regan surrounded himself with people that made him look smart, I would not say he really could make any bright idea choices on his own, but then again I really don't have much to say about that time period of the presidency. There is nothing that can be changed, what is done is done, pretty interesting how it all turned out. I am going to try to get a scan of the riddle in todays paper, it was knock down funny about this whole mess. Gore has the time on his hands to put up a fight, he is job less! So is it not practical for him to fight so he has at least a dim chance of securing a job for the next 4 years? I don't see how he could loose florida, looking at the ethnical makeup of the state it is almost a dead win for democrat.

John
70 Jeepster with "Hurc package"
48 CJ-2A 225 V-6, SM465, D18, D44's, SOA on CJ springs, 35's, SHORT driveshaft /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif
89 Wrangler 4 banger
98 Tacoma EC 6 cyl
 
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Do you guys reqally buy that BS about banning the internal cumbustion engine? There are more engines than people in this country and you think they can ban them? They cannot even get a grip on the drug trade, how the hell can they ban engines? Think about it, trains, planes, boats, machinery, autos all rely mostly on the I.C.E. What are they going to do shut down the whole f*cking country? Get real.

John
70 Jeepster with "Hurc package"
48 CJ-2A 225 V-6, SM465, D18, D44's, SOA on CJ springs, 35's, SHORT driveshaft /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif
89 Wrangler 4 banger
98 Tacoma EC 6 cyl
 
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