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Poser\'s Information

I found this surfing the web. Thought some of you might enjoy it. It came from David Moller's 1999 Jeep Wrangler Sport Web Page.

Jeep Posers
poser n 1: a person who habitually pretends to be something he is not
Please note: For the most part, it takes more than one of these items to be a poser. Please don't be offended if you resemble one or two of the characteristics. It's all in good fun, and simply based on behaviors I've seen, and messages I've read on newsgroups and mailing lists. I've even been guilty of a couple of these. Feel free to email me with your own favorite 'poser' identification traits, and I'll be sure to add them to the list.

If you worry about where to put your windows when your soft top is down, so they don't get scratched, you might be a poser.

If your bumpers and/or rocker panel protection are tubular chrome, you might be a poser.

If you don't know what Trac-Lok and a Dana 44 are, but got them anyway because someone said you should, you might be a poser.

If you shift into 4WD just because you're on a gravel road, you might be a poser.

If you know the R.T.I. score for your Jeep, but there isn't a single scratch on your undercarriage, you might be a poser (or your rig is equipped with the Mount Everest lift kit!).

If color was a major consideration when buying your Jeep, you might be a poser.

If you have bodyside steps (not counting rocker protection that can be used as a step), you might be a poser.

If you consider stereo equipment to be a 'modification', you might be a poser.

If you consider your alarm system to be a 'modification', you might be a poser.

If you don't have room in your Jeep for your recovery gear and other trail necessities because the space is taken up by subwoofers, speakers, amplifiers, CD changers, etc., you might be a poser.

If you don't have tow hooks, you might be a poser (or you have a damn nice rig that has no chance of getting stuck!).

If you don't have a Hi-Lift jack or equivalent, you might be a poser (can you imagine trying to change a tire on the trail with the stock jack?!).

If you won't drill any holes in the frame or body because the Jeep is leased, you might be a poser.

If scratching your paint is a major concern to you, you might be a poser.

If you bought aftermarket alloy wheels, or the 30" tire/wheel package, and worry about scratching your rims, you might be a poser.

If you equip your Jeep with larger tires because they look cool, but don't have the fender clearance to make it over a speed bump without rubbing, you ARE a poser.

If you put a cover on your spare to 'protect' it, while your other four tires and wheels are constantly exposed to the elements, you might be a poser.

If you want to install those 'cool headlights that look blueish white', you might be a poser.

If you want to know if a Jeep Wrangler can go 80mph (or some other absurd speed) for an extended distance, you might be a poser.

If you only run your Jeep with a hard top because the wind noise with a soft top bothers you, you might be a poser.

If you actually let the fact that Sahara models have fender flares painted to match the body color influence your buying decision, you might be a poser.

If you let someone else (buddy, shop, etc.) do all the modifications to your Jeep, you might be a poser.

If you have never run a trail in a stock Wrangler, yet you still install a suspension lift, larger tires, and some lockers on your Jeep 'just because', you might be a poser.

If you are concerned about your door hinges remaining 'Solar Yellow' when mirror relocation brackets are installed, you might be a poser.

If your spare tire still has the little rubber spike things on it, you might be a poser (or real lucky that you haven't had to use your spare!).

If you actually lock the doors on your soft top Wrangler, you might be a poser.

If you spend over $4,000 on Jeep accessories and modifications, and you are most impressed by the bug deflector, you might be a poser.

If this is your page (http://community-2.webtv.net/G_R_E_E_D_Y/JeepWhosaystheycant/), you ARE a poser!

If you say that you turned your Jeep Sahara into a Renegade "by removing the Sahara Decals and replacing them with factory Renegade decals", you might be a poser (although from what I can tell, this guy isn't).

If you intentionally ordered your Jeep without the Dana 44 (so you could get ABS), you might be a poser.

If you want to replace your factory soft top windows with "those cool tinted replacement ones", you might be a poser.

If you bought the Jeep Emergency Kit, and the Jeep CD Boombox, you might be a poser.

If it took you a while to figure out how to lower your Hi-Lift Jack (after jacking up your Jeep), you might be a poser.

If you sign your post with the color of your vehicle (i.e. '00 Solar Sport), you might be a poser.

If you had your Jeep lifted three inches, but still don't know what sway bar disconnects are, you might be a poser.

I may not like what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
Semper Jeep
 
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Just a couple more,
If you have no air gage or valve remover in your on board supplies, you may be a poser.
If You have no on board supplies of tree straps and chains, you may be a poser.
If you have no Jeep " for trail use only" tools on board you may be aposer.
If you have no leather work gloves on board, you may be a poser, or have leather like skin on your palms.
If you have never heard the term "air down" you probably are a poser.
If your paint job cost more than a new locker, you may be aposer.
If you opted for the new paint job, over a locker install, you may be a poser.
If youve never seen or been in a rollover, you may just be a Newbie, but you may be a poser.
AND LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT:
If you can stand back and look at your Jeep and honestly say "Wheeew, It's finally finished" , then you ARE DEFFINITELY A POSER.

Jeff
89 Wrangler
Chance and luck, favor the well prepared.
 
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umm.. jeff....
i um.. once painted my jeep this really nifty pearl white....it cost a ton... i had no lockers.....too bad it doesn't look so good with the "trimmed" fenders........but a couple more
..if your winch cable is shiney and spooled perfectly......
..your roll "cage" is bolted to the floor...
..your name is jeepgod...oops.....
..you go on trips "off-road" with the hard top on...
..your wife still believes the jeep is hers...
..you don't know why people keep badmouthing the t-5, dana 30 etc...
..your jeep is ORANGE..oops...sorry again jeepgod...
..your neighbors actually like you.....

~~Elusive~~
it's sort of still a cj thingy....see it at http://www.jeepgod.net
 
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hehehe , Jeff wait til I tell my buddy this . He just got what he thinks is the finishing touch to his YJ , the center hoop roll bar padding . Yes , I helped him put it on and he stood back and said " She`s finally finished Jeff" .
I said " Uh huh " /wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif

Jeepzilla
CJ5
Almost finished /wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif
 
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Hey! My jeep was done yesterday. I swear. No, really, honey, I swear. There's no more mods, after this ONE... I swear... WHAT! How can you say that, my fingers aren't crossed... /wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif

I re-assemble some of those remarks, but fail to take offense! /wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif

http://www.obsessiveoffroad.com
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything...
 
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Hehehehehehe,
I feel a little bad,I just read Elusives return home from Wisconsin Post and had to be the 1st to tell him that he is suffering from a Dairy induced dimensia. He, now believes from what I can make of the post, he has the inclination and ability to complete his TJ7 project, aaahhhh its really kinda sad.
Elusive...., Elusive.... "hey its me , Jeff"
I really liked the If your neighbors still like you post? dont know how I could have missed that one. Good to see you coming back to us. Remember, more beer you need to flush your system.
YJ94,
"Right On", your finished too,... man that is great, really. Whoaaa, stop the press, can you believe this, Im reading the Classifieds, and theres a pair of reverse cut 35 spline full floater D60s cut to 62" with high knuckle steering, hmmmm 4.56 gears ARB front and Detroit rear(with discs, Woow), hmmm its says here the perches are set up for a YJ SOA suspension....Hhhmmmmm, verrrry niiiice.... and only $500 for the set. Well my set up is complete so I dont need them.....YJ94,you wouldnt be interested in a deal like this would you? Oh I forgot your finished with your YJ too. Hehehehehehe, man Id be knocking on his door by about 6:00am if I only had to drive 500 miles to get there.
"Trail Jeep Complete", man you guys crack me up.

Jeff
89 Wrangler
Chance and luck, favor the well prepared.
 
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i can complete it.....
what???////where am I????
AAHHHH!! I'm at work!!!NOOO....
hmm...now i see clearly...i have a nice 5 year completion plan for the tj-7...thats is, if NOTHING breaks it will have all the things it NEEDS in 5 years..if i don't build the new tj at all....wow.. i must have been TIRED!

~~Elusive~~
it's sort of still a cj thingy....see it at http://www.jeepgod.net
 
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In reply to:

If you want to know if a Jeep Wrangler can go 80mph (or some other absurd speed) for an extended distance, you might be a poser.
Hey, so what if it can do 80 mph? We came back from Nova Scotia in the TJ following mxnhid cruising at over 85 mph, with no doors or windows, loaded to the hilt, for hours. It went just fine and the cargo net (and military poncho holding the camping gear down) only needed to be adjusted a few times. Why would that be considered a "poser", I considered it fun, but a little windy.

JEEPN
'81 CJ-8 Scrambled!
GM151/SM465/NP205 twinstick/7"Lift/33"TSL's/IHC D44's 4.10's Lock'd
 
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I know a guy who got his 98TJ stuck in a creek. 2.5" lift 32" BFG's... He bought it like that from the dealership. He got rid of the winch on the front to add another option, I think it was his swing out tire carier and hight lift jack and mount on the front bumper. When he asked me to pull him out, i asked if he had pulled his sway bar connects before wheeling it into the creek. He said take the what off. I tried to explain the benefits of a locker, because he said that his tires were just spinning in the sand at the bottom of the creek, but he wouldn't hear it. I also tried to explain the benefits to taking off the swaybar connects, and he didn't understand anthing about articluation. He also has chrome tubular nurf bars. Kind of funny to think about. I wasn't able to pull him out because I had already parked the YJ for its TLC, but another jeeper was. What was really funny was when it rained that night, it soaked the inside of his jeep, and make the creek rise up into the inside of the jeep. It really messed up his full carpeting/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif...

I felt a little sorry for the guy. He spent almost 22k for it at the jeep dealer with all of the optiions that he got with it. I told him if he ever wanted to upgrade not to take it to a shop and bring it over and we'd put it on. He declined saying that he needed the Dealer to do it because of warranty issues....

oh well, I tried to help.../wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif

Robert87yj/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif
engine rebuild w/4.0 head done, now for the MPI
 
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Ok, well I feel a little silly...someone posted a question about supertops and I detailed my removal of the side windows before folding so they don't get scratched...

Thought in middle of modifications: "Maybe AMC did it right the first time...Naah."
 
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Hey!! all of you border line Posers,
Its OK to try to keep your Jeep looking good and well maintained. Let me conffess to you all, my own Jeep primping. There are many times in the past, that I have masked off and painted parts before a big run, nay it wasnt just a couple of parts, but many. I have painted Skid plates, inner fender wells, diff covers, leaf springs and bumpers, do I need to say more. And though I have done these paintings time and again, all in the name of rust protection, I must now be truthfull to all of you,... my brother Jeepers, I harbored thoughts of cosmetic improvement, through each and every can of paint I applied.
I now have piece of mind, as the burden I have been carrying for so long has been lifted.
Uuhhh, after further thought, IIII've changed my mind about confessing, how do I erase this dang thing.( HHHmmm,I wonder how many times Bill Clinton has spoken those axcact same words).

Jeff
89 Wrangler
Ol Murphy(Murphy's law), should be in prison by now, for all times he's kicked the crap out of Lady Luck.
 
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you might be a poser?
if your jeep is pink...
if your spare isnt the same size as the rest of the tires...
if your jeep is lowered..
if you just have a body lift...
if you drive around in the summer with the windows up & hard top on....
if you have 2 heaters in your jeep (cjdave)/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif
if you have more time and money in your tire rack than the rest of it(for you H8)
if you get pissed over a dent in the new TJ.. oops.. sorry Elusive
if you have more stickers than improvements...
if you are at a mud pit.. and you say.. "i never got stuck"..
if you think you will get 50 hp gain from borla..
if you dont have a scare on your hand... (actually gramps said.. "never trust a man with no scars on his hands".. never did any honest work)
if you are still trying to get 16 mpg out of your jeep...
if you trailer your jeep to and fro.. (sorry guys.. i believe in driving back and forth) plus am too poor to have trailer..

survival is instinct, but living takes guts

http://www.jeepgod.net
 
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"If you don't have a Hi-Lift jack or equivalent, you might be a poser (can you imagine trying to change a tire on the trail with the stock jack?!)."

There's a few hard core climber guys around here that will argue with this one.
They scoff at the idea of a high lift (or any other kind of jack).
Sez one, "Heck, I just climb up on a rock to get the wheel in the air and yank it off!"

JAF
http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep
 
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Jeepgod,
Ouch,that hurt,
To think you would take a personal jab, at my simple yet effiecent rack.
Like Im the 1st guy, to ever install a simple combination bumper, swing away, tire carrier, gas can holding,chainsaw rack ready, water carrier/dispenser,vice gripping,ice chest carrying,adjustable cargo racking,CB antennaing,back up lit/high intensity lighted, adjustable triple, heim jointed strut reinforced,Ammo box parts storaging,clothes drying,shovel/axe or pulaskii/bolt cutter placement,.. or remove it all and have nothining,......Uuuhhh.. Tire carrier.
Yes, I am aware, that I mentioned Tire carrier twice,....Duh, thats because it can carry 2 tires, if I soooo desire.
Your personal attack,upon my simple rack set up, probably just cut so deep at this particular time, due to the emotional duress I was put under durring my Rubicon trip. On more than one traumatic occasion, in fact several, while trying to talk with fellow Jeep enthusiasts, about trail performance prowess, I was interupted for the same request, You guessed it, to photograph the rack set up.
ME: Yeah, its SOA custom shocks mounts and spring packs,..Id conservatively estimate 16" of front travel and rear is abou......
Other Jeep Guy: Aahhhh yeah thats really neat?? aahh wheel travel, yeah, you bet??Uhhmm I dont want to be rude but, could I just get a couple photos of the cool rear rack thingy, I mean Im late to meet up with some other spotless Jeeps for a little carnuba wax fest, over by the Rubicon Springs, there arent to many more rocks on the trail I hope.
Me: Sure, take the photos, Hey what time for the carnuba wax fest? My Jeep is dirty too.
Other Jeep Guy: Auhh You'd be imposing
Me: OK...I understand,(under my breath),Ill be fine, dont worry bout me, even though my Jeep really could use a waxing.
To think that you could accuse me of being a poser.

Jaffer,
I beleive the propper technique for tire repairs, is to roll the entire rig onto its lid, where all the tires can be inspected and repairs rendered as needed, all at once.

Jeff
89 Wrangler
Ol Murphy(Murphy's law), should be in prison by now, for all times he's kicked the crap out of Lady Luck.
 
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Hey, i've seen guys change tires, no jack involved, they did it on flat ground too.
Had someone attach a winch cable to the upper door bar on the cage, and pull the jeep side ways. it picked up both tires on the opposite side, and viola.
And H8, how long till you incorporate some kinda sink, shower, jacuzzi into the rack??

Later
BJ

Of course it's hard, that's the point!!! If i wanted easy, i'd drive on the freeway.
FJ???? Does that stand for FAKE JEEP???
 
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SOA_YJ,
You really cant rush genius,,hehehehe, one thing at a time.
I have many,more urgent,"ISSUES" to solve first.
As soon as I get back on the ground in Reno tomorrow, from some R&R spent in Southern Cal the last few days.
I have to, almost immediately, locate, purchase, and install a new motor( my old 4.0 is dying)
Complete the D44 front axle assembeling,( steering, brakes and rotor hub assembly), and swap it for the D30 which Ive sold to a freind,(but he needs to have the D30 in his posesion for swapping by the 19th), wheww, no rush there!!
Then I can complete ice cube maker, capacino machine, and blender upgrades to the rack.
With that done Ill be able to address the sink,shower, Jacuzii issues that have been way tooo long on the back burner.
Actually I really would like to fabricate a fresh water fed,pump driven, hot water, shower set up, using a heat exchanger at the engine(or possibly off the Nuclear Reactor when it completed),and a cold hot mixer with a shower head, at the end of maybe, a 25' hose. But its not on any short list of (just cant live without)projects, at this time.
I was very pleased with the new rear rack system, on its 4 day long, maiden run,(with Jeepchick and her$300 lbs of must have items) on the Rubicon. And I really did have quite a few requests to photo or draw the racks,components and system.
Still, I just love how the Jeep feels and performs, when stripped down to bare bones, fightin weight.

Jeff
89 Wrangler
Ol Murphy(Murphy's law), should be in prison by now, for all times he's kicked the crap out of Lady Luck.
 
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see you build that shower, find a hot tub sized hole in the ground (not overly tough in Moab) preferably full of H20, stick the puick up of the Shower into it, and the Hot output from it in their too, leave the Jeep running for an hour or so, and you have yourself a Hot tub... hehehe.... a Quick and easy way to make friends in camp.

Good Luck on the swaps. My goal is to have a cage done, rocker panels angle ironed, and overhead console built by the end of this month.... And a friends gear swap this weekend, maybe.

How's the motor search coming?? Anything in the Local Yards?? All the motors i've been paying attention to lately have been 1.8LF*rd Pinto Motors (Circle Track Pony Stock ) and BBC's (looking for a Really Low compression 454 for my lil sis's El Cam, will have a 8-71 on it)

OK, i'm going to bed, hte morning seems to come sooner and sooner recently
BJ

Of course it's hard, that's the point!!! If i wanted easy, i'd drive on the freeway.
FJ???? Does that stand for FAKE JEEP???
 
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hey there H8.. you know if i just had a parking lot to work on my jeep.. instead of this crummie weld shop.. will all new equipment.. i might just have a tire rack like yours.. but alas.. i dont.. /wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif..

someday.. someday.. when the stars align..

survival is instinct, but living takes guts

http://www.jeepgod.net
 
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I'm thinking that there should be a too much lift rule as well...something like, "If you have more than 1" of lift for every 10" of wheelbase, you're a poser." So 8" of lift on my CJ5, and so on...

Thought in middle of modifications: "Maybe AMC did it right the first time...Naah."
 
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HEY!!! Slogging through the gumbo down here you have to have that kind of lift... although, I haven't seen any jeep taller than mine on the trails... and all the ones here running 40-44"'s are all beachcomers... Hmmmmm......

And for the record, I only have 4"!!!! /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

Florida Mud CJ-5
'77 RB304, t-150 D20 4" 35" swampers