Bluesman, I just had a buff and didn't want to get my hands dirty. ewwwwwww.

Oh brother. I can hear it now. My thingy doesn't work, can you help?

Craig
84 CJ7
BRC Lifetime Member

 

That is possibly one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. I am afraid I would have broken out in laughter. You should have told him he should get his muffler bearings checked at the same time.

David Sanders
http://www.geocities.com/david_sanders_79/jeep.htm

 

If he has a VW bug, make sure to tell him to check his coolant level also!/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif

 

Good call, where is that up front? I always like the idea (I think it was on the bugs) where they use the spare tire air pressure for the window washer pressure.

David Sanders
http://www.geocities.com/david_sanders_79/jeep.htm

 

I have to admit, when I was going through training on the computer at a parts store I worked for, he asked for some coolant part on a VW, and I fell for it. Damn near took me about a minute to remember, "Oh yeah!! They're air cooled!!"

 

Surprised he didnt go to the Jeep dealer for that service...

remy

Give me Jeep or Give me Death!!!

(Will trade functioning organs for CJ-7 or flatfender)

 

Main Entry: pa.thet.ic
Pronunciation: p&-'the-tik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Term used to describe the end users where I work AND Mr. "I'm here to get my lugnuts tightned"-- more at PATHOS
Date: 1598
1 : having a capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity
2 : marked by sorrow or melancholy : SAD
synonym see MOVING
- pa.thet.i.cal /-ti-k&l/ adjective
- pa.thet.i.cal.ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb

Caver Dave
'72 Commando
Oo=====oO

 

...Who says he would go on the trails...
"you mean like...off the pavement?"
He probably doesn't even know how to put it in 4WD.

Paulee


'94 YJ Pro-Comp Coil-over kit. 33's
....and a lot more to be done!

 

Reminds me of last summer when I was camping. A brother of one of the people came down to visit and made his enterance into camp doing 30mph though the creek and into camp. Well, while going though the creek, he sliced a sidewall. He sat there and bitched about that American made POS while he looked for the owners manual to find out where the jack was and where you jack it up. He ended up not having the key for the locking lug nuts and had to beat them off. It made for good entertainment. He was such an a$$ that no one wanted to help him.

Rick
80 CJ7

 

OK, let's give this guy a little credit, (just a little). A mechanic friend of mine showed me a set of long, multi colored sockets. They are used on the impact wrench to tighten lug nuts. I guess with new wheels that are made of different composites you have to be careful not to over or under tighten them. The multi colored sockets are color coded to match wheel manufacture specs and will twist at certain torque ratings letting the mechanic know that it is tight enough. The guy may of been anal enough to ensure his were correct as long as the mechanic loosened them first then tightened them using the correct torque.
That's just my 2 cents.

85'CJ, stock for now! It's a Jeep thing ...my wife doesn't understand.

 

It happens a lot, a buddy of mine works at a Les Scwhab, whenever someone gets new wheels they tell them to come back after 75-100 miles to have the lug nuts re-torqued, a good amount of the people do go back and ask to have their lugs tightened. Even the place that Jeep wife bought our car trailer at x-mas time wanted me to tow it back to there lot (45 minutes) to have the lugs done, hmmmm, no I can do it. But driving there with them loose to have it done, that's just lazy or unskilled.

pbm
There is a difference between being Educated and Intelligent!

 

Possible definitions;
"Wild" would have to be defined as the unplowed section of a Mall parking lot.
"Trail ride" would have to be defined as driving PAST those really BIG threatening snow mountains they make in the plowed sections of a Mall parking lot.

I'm sorry to say I have met such people in the Maine woods, Usually on a new cutting road and hours away from any help. One was "stuck " because a small tree limb was lodged in the drive line an made a lot of noise. Pulling the tree limb out "rescued" them.

I wonder how they get here in the first place? Is there a "wilderness" chauffeur service in the cities where they offer to trailer these POS Subarus, Volvos & "jeeps" to the edge of our woods, and release these insane people on hard working woodsmen. You can always tell who they are, they have the SEA kayak tied on the roof or rollbar/windshield.
They think nothing of stopping in the middle of a logging road, doors wide open, to photograph the resident moose and then complain about the dust or mud on their vehicle made by the 150,000# logging truck that successfully avoided killing them.. Even the moose knew enough to get out of the way of logging truck. Those "brush bars" on the frontend are much too high to be effective against rabbits or deer, and a 1000 # moose merely bounces off them, once.

UGH!! *&%#$@* &%$@#^$*^& (sorry for the foul language on this family board)
Bluesman you're a man of extraordinary calm.

PEACE !! /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif
w

 

Hurray for the last two posters before Little_W! I had intended to write a similar post (not being quite as tactful as they were). By the time I got back to reply though, these two INTELLIGENT posts had already been made. The last time I had tires mounted on my mags, they made me sign that I would bring it back to have the torque checked.

There are other possible explanations as well.

A bad set of wheels that cause the lug nuts to continually come loose, so he comes back for the tightening until they decide to make a refund.

They screwed up in the first place and he wants them to realize it.

So, was pathetic the jumping to conclusions and ridiculing someone one behind his back when not all the facts were known?

BTW-Not ALL VWs were air cooled.

 

coughbullsh*tcough

Trailhed.com

 

I've been reading this thread with interest and have come to a conclusion.

The conclusion is that the guy was not pathetic. He may have been ignorant, or unskilled in mechanics, but not pathetic. He would have been pathetic if he let the a problem he precieved to continue.

Me, I'm grateful for guys like this because it means more parts for me in the future.

So just what would be pathetic?

It would be pathetic if one of us, who knew better went in to have the lug nuts tightened.

 

The guy is Lazy, Un-skilled, Unimaginative, and couldn't find his butt in a dark room with both hands, but he IS the perfect consumer...

Aluminum wheels, especially spun aluminum, compress under the pressure of the lugs.
That's why the manufacturer wants you to use a specific torque on the lugs, and not over tighten them. (hence the 'torque sticks', those long multi colored extensions someone spoke of up the thread...)
Most manufacturers want you to check the lugs several times over the first couple of weeks...

Now, this guy follows directions given by the 'guys' at the store... The perfect consumer.... Does what he's told....
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When we install an engine or transmission, we would tell the person to bring the engine back in 500 miles for an oil change...
Only about one in every 100 actually did that...
(I wanted to see the oil, the oil filter, and what was in the tranny pan and stuck to the magnetic plug)
Find problems early, and you reduce warranty cost while increasing customer satisfaction. (they are real satisfied when they don't get stranded some where!)

Most of the 'consumers' thought we were just offering a 'free oil change' and sense most of our customers could build an engine, they thought that was an insult.
What we were actually doing is checking on the health of a fresh build, and all the components that go into that build.

We used to tell customers not to 'Hot Rod' any engine until they had at least 1,000 miles on it.
On more than one occasion we saw guys at the drag strip or out flogging it on the street the same day or the next day racing the engine we just built!
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I wouldn't mind having this guy as a customer.
Buying fancy new 'chrome' wheels means he has disposable income, following directions means he won't be a 'stupid kill' warranty problem, and if you give him some respect and prompt service, he'll come back often with even more money in his pocket...

On the other hand, it's pretty pathetic that someone has to buy expensive 'do-dads' to get any respect...
I've seen guys hang around in the shop and buy trinkets because we didn't treat them like their employer, family, 'friends' (and I use the term loosely), do...

I'm going to make fun of him now when I see the fancy new wheels and tires, and no dents, scratches or mud on his Jeep...
I'm going to make fun of him when he says things like, "My wife won't let me..." or "What if I get stuck or break something?"....

(WIFE WON'T LET ME!! /wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif BHAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA!!!!!!!!!!!
If she EVER wants another new stitch of cloths, hair cut, finger nail, gob of colored or smelly goo, soap you aren't allowed to use, or crap to hang on the walls again, she had better not say a thing!/wwwthreads_images/icons/mad.gif)

So many cats, so few recipes...

 

CJ7Taz -- Some people are too serious. Notice the statement about NOT making snap judgements in the original post? Notice the part where I said that his lugs were LOOSE (as stated by him, in the shop).

Have fun with it. Be as un-tactful as you like, my skin is obviously thicker than some around here.

'83 CJ-7 nothing original but the tub and axle tubes

 

I have been rolling for the last 5 minutes at this post...you guyz r killin me /wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif...too funny!!

Mobdawg
89 YJ /wwwthreads_images/icons/mad.gifStill Needs a Name!!/wwwthreads_images/icons/mad.gif

 

I'm sorry !!! /wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif
Driving around with loose wheels must be common - outside of Maine. /wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif

I hadn't heard of "torque sticks" before this thread.
Hope he has one with him when he gets a flat. /wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif

Learn something every day. /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

PEACE !! /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif
w

 

Torque sticks are made usually to use on a air gun the twist of the bar only makes it so that a certin amount of torque can be applied and then the air gun basically rachets and doesn't go past that torque. Just a faster way to tighten wheels without going over or using a torque wrench.
Chad

84 & 76 CJ-7's Give me a striaght six cummins diesel anyday. jeepinaround@localbar.com

 

It's been too long since I heard TR's perspective on something.

Aaron...it's good to see you posting.

Hank
88 YJ (sort of)