I am offended by this post. I'm not a Muslim but I think single out an entire religion based on a few extremists is wrong. If you're gonna go that route how about pointing out the Crusades, or any other time Christians of any sort killed others because they simply weren't their kind of Christian. Please delete the post.

 

Sure glad I seldom need stamps.

There will still be a simple stamp with the Flag on it?

Yeah there will be, pick B5 on the vending machine.

Never mind... not offended (just some input from something that ticked ya off didn't it), might be sickened at some thoughts about it... Never mind.

Guess we just have to deal with it.

You did vote didn't you?

Dale

 

Your president just visited a country to ask for help.

Canada.

Canada was part of the route taken by the Sept. 11th Terrorists to get into the United States..

BOYCOTT CANADA FOR ALLOWING BAD PEOPEL.. WAIT..

BOYCOTT CANADA FOR ALLOWING BAD MUSLIM PEOPLE... OH WAIT

BOYCOTT CANADA FOR ALLOWING AND HARBORING MUSLIM PEOPLE, MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN IN CANADA AND ALLOWING THEM THE TRAVEL THE BORDER.

I take offence to your post.

I thought this was ORC. Off-Road.Com, NOT.. HATE LITERATURE BOARD OF AMERIKKKA.

Thanks for once again lowering the intelligence level and sophistication of this board... and here I thought it was on the rise since the end of the Election.

If you DON'T Find this post offensive, then you are NOT patriotic.

There is a fine line between Nationalism and Patriotism. Most people don't even know there is a line, but you just crossed it jackass.

 

I'll do this with reluctance:

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They don't even believe in Christ

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Yes, they do. They also believe in Moses and Mary. They just don't acknowedged HIM as their savior. They regard HIM as a prophet. They are from the children of Abraham. They not only follow the Quran ..but the Torah.

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REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm
Flight 103!

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CHRISTIANS did the Oklahoma federal building bombing

and Christians conquered and colonized just about the entire world.

White Christians starved most native Americans to death.

Now many with Muslim names (all males have Mohammed in their names) do some really crazy stuff.

I'll also offer that many people with Christian names do the same.

What you're experiencing is the same stuff you do when you see undersocialized behavior from anyone from another ethnic origin. You may be used to Billy-Bobs low life behavior ..but Anton's and Jo-Mama's may make you want to puke and wonder what kinda upbringing turned out such a smack-a$$ mess.

Savage low lifes exist in all cultures. There's no race, gene, or birthplace that exempts this corruption of a soul.

I have no special love for Muslims. Millions of them live quite peacefully here and are more involved in experiencing the American Dream than just about any home grown domestic crop that we produce ..at least in the last few decades or in any abundance. American born Muslims are in our miltary and kill Muslims everyday and they aren't shooting any "brothers". Shall we point our guns at them too? But while we're at it ...why are we protecting some Muslims from others? Why not just shoot them all over there? That would show our true colors as a nation, right?

Now if you want to stomp out and destroy any low life who happens to act like a savage ..and he/they happen to have Muslim names ..then I'm all for it. I'll spend whatever you want to exterminate every last one of them ..with fiendishly wicked zeal. I will ask for forgivness for such shamefully violent feelings later. I don't care if they're Muslims or Martians. Scum are scum.

Most Muslims are about as spiritual as those with Christian names ...not very much. Shall we purge them too while we're at it? Pehaps so ..but I'll leave that type of weeding out to GOD. I have enough blackness in my own soul to deal with.

Beyond all that ...don't buy 'em. 8 million legal foreign born and many millions of American born Muslims probably will. When those 8 million naturalized Muslims have children ..there will be many millions of natural born Americans that are "Muslims" ..shall we have a special place for "them"? Perhaps an "American Muslim" stamp would work for you. Otherwise crank up the ovens and get the trains moving on time. Shower head demand will go up at Home Depot.

Happy wheeling

 

Nope, not offended. I'm guessing most won't be. What are there a million Muslims in America? I hope the USPS doesn't make more than $370,000. But if they do it will be by the brainwashed PC crowd.

The Crusades didn't involve Americans. The Crusades started in the 11th century when Moslem Turks slaughtered Christian pilgrims on their way to the holy land, Palestine. I'd like to think that all of mankind is more advanced in the 21st century that they were in the 11th. Nope, not the Muslims. You can say it is only the extremists, but their Koran still says it's OK for them to kill Infidels.

Besides,

What group of Christians ever bombed an airliner?

What group of Christians ever bombed the World
Trade Center?

What group of Christians ever bombed a Marine
barracks?

What group of Christians ever bombed an American
Embassy?

What group of Christians ever bombed an American War Ship?

Some things similar to these may have been done by Christians, but not in the name of a religion.

I'll happily buy a Christmas stamp and the American Flag Stamp.

Let the flames begin!

Duane
A Patriotic American!

 

The IRA supports Catholicism.

Catholics belive in Christ as the savior. Therefore they are Christian.

The IRA blew up children, women, mothers, pubs, British Marines, British trains, they blew up planes, and cars. They even blew up themselves.

If for even one second the thought that all Muslims are bad and therefore deserve to die crosses your mind you are quite frankly an idiot.

That's right, I'm calling everyone who agrees with that post an idiot.

The government isn't feeding you this information, the people as a whole don't belive this.

This is purly YOUR HATRED that is brewing an anti-Muslim feeling.

Before the 20th century, Islam was just about the only religion that managed to live the majority of the time in peace. It was also one of the only religions to preach tolorance.

From Portugal in the West, clean through the Mediteranian to the Cacussas, and the Chrimera, into Chechnya, Afghanistan, during the middle ages Muslims had a Majority rule and put up with and tolorated tens of other religions.

 

defy,

You gotta understand ...although those that do these things have Muslim names and claim to be Muslims ..they are not representitive of all Muslims. It's very simple. They have gansters and fanatics that use spiritual association to justify their smacka$$ crack brained behavior.

You've got the mixed blessing of living in a very blessed land. We too have our gansters and radicals. They act just like the same savages in those places. They prey upon their "own kind" ..and they do it in every major city in America. If viewed from the outside it would be easy to say "look at them ..they prey upon each other". The same crap happens over there. Muslim women are sold by Muslim men into slavery. Muslim officials are corrupt and blind ..as long as you have the right amount of "baksheesh" (literally translated ..a gift ..actually a bribe).. There are two types of third world people ..jackals and sheep.

We've run into some jackals.

You can hate them all ...as much as you please. Keep in mind that the reign of the whiteman is slowly coming to an end and our former subjects of past empires are now being invited to serve their former masters in a different capacity. Don't like "*********" or "*********" ???....colder climates won't even save you. In Canada they're as thick as buffalo (when buffalo were thick). Britain? Norway, Holland, Germany, France?? Yes, all our bastians of western culture are being attacked by a 5th column movement in a great Muslim conspiracy. They've already invaded under the cloak of ignorance and are now ready to pounce upon us. You're already surrounded and out numbered. Maybe we can start a class/race war between the legals and the illegals and they might bypass us.

So, my friend .....lock and load ...send the wife and kids to the root cellar ...the war is already upon you and you're caught flat footed.

"Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more ...or fill the wall with our English dead.."

 

In reply to:

If you are offended by this post...Let me know!!!

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No, I'm not offended.

In reply to:

DON'T BUY IT

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I don't, but not in the way you intended.

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O/T outrageous

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Yes, but again, not in the way you intended.

I'm grateful for you right to free speach. I'm grateful for the freedoms afforded Us by the U.S. Constitution. I am grateful for people like Gary who can intelligently and eloquently articulate my feelings in a way that I could not. I'm grateful for the brave soldiers like the ones mentioned in the string POSTCARDS FROM IRAQ... who believe in, and defend those freedoms.

The stamps I use have The U.S. Flag on them, beacause I believe "in the Republic, for which [that flag] stands".

Thank you GeeAea...

Rick Peay
Laytonsville, Maryland

 

see.... i just hate everyone...makes it much easier that way

 

I just wonder how many relatives of our servicemen that have been killed or maimed over there trying to "help" those primitives will buy the stamps?

Is being a traitor a new definition of "going Postal?"

If you've ever to had to deal with those people on a regular basis you'd know the true definition of "liar."
If you ask what time it is and they say 10 AM -- you'd better look at the clock yourself, it's probably 4:30. They don't consider lying, cheating, or killing an infidel a wrong doing. Their Koran teaches that!

 

I try to get to know and hate people one person at a time, with no regard for skin tone, political affiliation, sexual preference, or religious beliefs.

 

No, you've got it wrong. I don't hate any entire group of people. Every person I meet is treated the same until there is a reason to treat them differently. No where in my post did I say I hated anyone. I'm just calling a duck a duck. They are killing people in the name of God. I'm Catholic and don't know much about other religions, but I'm willing to bet that there aren't many that kill in the name of God.

The people in the IRA are Catholic, but they don't do what they do in the name of God. They are doing what they are doing because they feel they are repressed by the British. The USPS has never had an IRA stamp that I'm aware of.

Duane

 

Dude! Not to beat a dead topic, but...

In reply to:

I don't hate any entire group of people.

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Followed by

In reply to:

They are killing people...

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I'm assuming if the "They" refers to the Muslims in your first post, that's painting with a pretty broad brush.

Believe me, I share your frustration and I do even agree that your "They" are standing there saying they are killing in the name of Allah, but Catholics, other Christians, in fact most religions have hidden behind there religions when committing atrocities.

I'm from Utah and was around when the Lafferty Brothers killed their sister-in-law. And life without parolee, Dan Lafferty, still insists it was in the name of God (read the book 'Under the Banner of Heaven'). So do we kill all the Mormons and burn down their Temples?

Most conflicts, disguised as racial, ethnic, religious, almost always are about the almighty... $$$.

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The [insert group] in [insert place] are [insert religious beliefs], but they don't do what they do in the name of [insert deity]. They are doing what they are doing because they feel they are repressed by the [insert another group].

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Kinda silly, huh?

 

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So do we kill all the Mormons and burn down their Temples?

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I've stared up the wrong end of a barrel of a gun more'n once because of my LDS faith... so it wouldn't be the first time...

Oh... and the Lafferty Brothers aren't LDS...

So, IMHO... I'll add my vote to NOT killing all the Mormons!

But, if anyone wants to try... I'll tell you what I told the others... "Shoot and be damned...."

 

Kill, Kill, Kill! Die, Die, Die!
What a positive bunch of folks. It is understandable to be upset at some issues you don't like, but energy is better used supporting the folks experienced at fighting the bad guys:
Servicemen (women)
Police
and don't avoid Jury duty, retirees, and the unemployed are not the majority.
Duh! (fell off the soapbox..)

 

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The people in the IRA are Catholic, but they don't do what they do in the name of God. They are doing what they are doing because they feel they are repressed by the British.

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Do you think those in Faluah do it for Allah? (laughing loudly) ..they're Baathists ...(Arab fascists) ...they don't have anything more "Muslim" to them than the "Christian" that only makes it to Christmas and Easter services. They were a minority with a majority under their boot. Baathists in Syria slaughtered 40,000 in one seige on the city of Hama ...just for the right to rule and have dominion over them. These "insurgents" are thug gansters. They are hired merc's from wealthy Sunni 'boss" gansters that have fled Iraq and use the corruption of the surrounding nations (anyone can be bought) to fund such operations. These insurgents find killing easy. Life comes cheap there. Most of the people that they kill are Muslim ...do you still think that this is a religous war? Just like the IRA ..and their conflict ..it is a conflict that happens to fall along spiritual divides. That is, all the a$$hol-s in this conflict ( and most of the victims) happen to be "Mulim" ..one Sunni one Shiah (Shiite)...just like in Ireland both are Christian (Catholic and Protestant). The conflict is over power. Either the retention of it ..or the acquasition of it.

In short ...this whole delusion of Muslim "Ummah" is a myth that was established by corrupt Muslim leaders via madrasas (religous schools). These corrupt Muslims (mostly Arab) have been on our leash for decades. We've kept them in power ..and they've provided Israel as the focal point of all the Muslim world's anxiety. You're poor (shh ..while the royal family is wealthy) ..DAMN Jews!!! Your tire went flat and you can't afford to fix it ...damn jews!! Look how they treat your "brothers" in Palestine! How dare they commit such an affront on "Arab land"!!" So they kept power ..all the while these gullible suckers were being taken to the cleaners. The plan worked flawlessly. Every stinking ignorant (and educated) Muslim took to the lesson well. They can live seemlessly with slavery, corruption, poverty, subjugation, oppression, savage slaughters of each other, death, ignorance ...and blame it all on the jew (Israel) and feel commited or sympathetic to "The destruction of The Great Infidel". This plan served us as well. If you look at the conflict in Iraq, you can see that it was far easier and far cheaper to leave these corrupt leaders in place and let them deal with the local politics in the way they best knew how ...with harsh and bruttal totalitarianism. The oil flowed, Israel soaked up the region's anxiety ..the m(asses) were distracted from those who truly kept them shackled and trapped. Ahh and peace in our valley. Well ..the plan kinda grew beyond its design and some Arabs were not satisfied with just gazing off at Israel and shaking their fists .....they decided to work outside the box that was built for them. They want POWER in a place where they have NONE.

The WHOLE spiritual affiliation is ONLY their form of PROPAGANDA for the m(asses). They are duping anyone with a Muslim name ....just like the west did for about 100 years. The ignorance and "mass mentality" that contained these people for so long has also empowered them. What you're seeing is a proxy fight for which corrupt leadership is going to retain or capture the jewel of POWER. Will it be our friendly bruttal corrupt leaders ..or our unfriendly bruttal and corrupt leaders??

The conflict has just slightly spilled over into our world a bit. I would venture to say that our strategic and political analysts are commenting that this current conflict is expensive ...but the savings of doing it the old way saved so much for so long that it's a small price to pay. The technique worked for decades and all good things come to an end.

Keep in mind that I don't care if the body count of scum runs in the multi million. You pick up a gun and fight, use a bomb...you're fair game. We can no longer afford to spoon feed these savage thugs legitimacy and civility. Since we can't seem to keep them contained in their little warped dark comedy ...we're gonna have to "force feed" them a dose of "normal" ....even if it kills them. Too much is at stake and we've got a pretty good operation to protect.

 

LEVE,

Sorry if that came across wrong.

But that was my point; because of some zealous nut cases, we can't condemn the masses.

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and the Lafferty Brothers aren't LDS...

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Not now, but they were LDS. One was an LDS Bishop in my sister's stake. They stopped paying taxes, registering cars, sent back their driver's licenses. They Denounced the U.S. government, and were holding secret meetings behind their ecclesiastical leader's backs. The family started going FLDS and that's how their Relief Society President and the youngest brother's wife both ended up on the hit list of the "one mighty and strong". They "outed" the brothers and got them ex'ed. So, they were active, practicing, recommend carrying members of the LDS faith that happened to go extremist, fundamentalist, & wacko. They studied and quoted main steam Christian and LDS Scripture. It was the crux of their dogma that convinced so many of their family to jump on the bandwagon.

I think the parallel is there. We can't judge a group(i.e. Muslims, Mormons, Jeep drivers), or even a few individuals, based on the actions of some extremist jacka$$es that try to hide behind a faith. Ask any FLDS, they believe they are just more right than Mormons, and Mormons are just more right than main stream Christians.

Just as some of the terrorists think they are divinely right; to the point of being willing to blow themselves up for the cause.

Again, I apologize if that came across wrong. I too have been persecuted for being LDS. Maybe that's why I can agree with what we (the U.S.) are doing in Iraq and still be tolerant of other faiths (i.e. Muslims).

okay... I just fell of (and will stay off) my soap box

ME-->

 

This has been an enlightening and learning thread for me. Gary Allen, your last response was awesome, thanks.

Duane Fey

 

Stick with it Leve, I did some time as a JW

You really want to hate the stamp, next year it will cost you 45 cents. thats what you all should be mad about.


Clint

 

Me? I much prefer this stamp:

Story & details here.

BTW, I'm not offended (but then I'm not real tolerant of folks out to kill me & mine) and appreciate the head's up (that I do not inadvertantly pick up any of 'dem thangs).

 

I never expected this amount of discussion. The replies on the other forum that I posted this on were much more subdued. I have learned a few things by reading the replies here and they have also renewed my appreciation of this forum for being so open.

The outrageous part of my post was the fact that "They don't even believe in Christ and they're getting their own Christmas stamp, but don't dream of posting the ten commandments on federal property-! " which goes in hand with the fact that my kids can no longer say the pledge of allegiance in school and the fact that so many things our fore fathers found important are being lost.

RRich said:
"If you've ever to had to deal with those people on a regular basis you'd know the true definition of "liar."
If you ask what time it is and they say 10 AM -- you'd better look at the clock yourself, it's probably 4:30. They don't consider lying, cheating, or killing an infidel a wrong doing. Their Koran teaches that!"

I have dealt with the above mentioned people many times at my ATV rental business, and while most people admit it when they wreck one of my quads,when it happens, these people ALWAYS deny it. To the point that my counter people point to the sign that says "we reserve the right to refuse service" when they walk in.

I always was the one willing to give everybody a chance.
Lived by the "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"..but,
After attending a "coastal watch" class put on by the fed's
my opinions changed somewhat.

I am sure that there were "some" good Natzi's as there were "some" good north Koreans and Vietnamese

Greg

 

Your post does not offend me, but If I were muslim it would. But its still free speech and thats what makes this country great!

 

Well, pilgrim .....looks like it's time to play Cowboys & Arabs.

(visions of McClintok, "I ain't gonna kill ya ..I ain't gonna kill ya ...the H3LL I'm not!)

 

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"They don't even believe in Christ and they're getting their own Christmas stamp,

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I don't think the stamp is about the terrorists, rather it is commemorating those who lost their lives or worked to save a few. Saying these stamps are about terrorists is giving them too much credit and missing the point all together.

 

This is what was told me when I posted the same E-Mail on the Jeepster board ,,, XMAS STAMP ,,, BAH HUMBUG !!!!