what about the inactive users?
Won't that speed it up?
Theres about 50 or more pages with users without a single post!

 

Puh-Lease.

This board has more collective knowledge in 1/4 of it then you will find in every magazine article, manual, diagram, or tutorial.

If simple things like having only 100 characters in your signature caused a "HUGE" influence on your life and you coming here, then quite frankly sir, I belive you have your priorities mixed up.

Your not the kind of person who gets mad at McDonalds staff because they shifted their menu one slot down to fit in the new burger are you?

What limitations have been enacted?

Edit times?
Does it really matter, just reply to your post with the correct info.

100 Character Sig?
So make your sig smaller and not so RAINBOW (If you catch my drift)

No sig pics?
Put it in your profile.

Small Avatars?
Put something funny in there, it doesn't have to be a 1024X1024 Pixel image thats so high res I can read the type of tire you have on your rig at the same time as seeing both the top and bottom of the Space Needle.

 

I agree. It's the little things people like, it keeps them coming back.

Keep chipping away at the features of the board and people will walk, no doubt about it. They'll say it's a PITA and such-and-such a board is better.

And if editing the post will actually change that much, why are we running on the ragged edge of technology AGAIN. The new BBS SHOULD be able to handle the 200 character sigs, the avatars, the 100K attachments, and anything else. Otherwise in 6 months it'll be BOGGED down to slower than crawl speed (which it's at for me now) with all the new people coming online.

So, to ask the perverbial question AGAIN, why is this BBS SO SLOW!

 

I have been doing this BBS thing in one form or another since 1982. That's a long time in the on-line world.

Every single time, I made an upgrade or change in any way, I have been faced by a small percentage of detractors that were unhappy with the work we did. That's alright, folks certainly have right to voice their opinions as long as they do so in a positive manner.

In the case of the new limitations we have imposed. Folks, I gotta tell ya, the majority of these were well thought out and the moderators and I will probably not be swayed to revert back to where we were.

On the other hand, some of the changes were deault setting in the new software and can be changed. The amount of time allowed to edit a message is one point. I will look at this today.

On the slowdown of the BBS. I will be prepping a server today to offload the SQL task.

Thanks

 

Hey Joey, I've had my "issues" with PJC in the past and every time this board changes a few people do leave. People just plain don't like to change, it's natural, but change is going to happen. It's our reaction to the changes that often determine where we spend the rest of our lives.

For the ORC Forum we're not talkin' life and death matters, heaven or hell. In the little segemant I see (Jeeps) we're talking fun, and transportation wrapped up into a great, historic vehicle.

Me, I'm reserving judgment on the board. This is a very successful forum and PJC and his crew are doin' all they can to up the speed. I LIKE animated GIFS... that was kinda neat... and I'm sorry to see them go. But on the other hand I am willing to make changes that will help the over-all speed of the forum increase. I'll adapt to the changes, swallow hard when I need to and make a judgment in a few months.

There's a lot behind the sceens I'll never see, I've been in the IT and MIS industry longe enough to know I don't know it all... and there's always a new product coming out ever 30 to 60 days that'll slice, dice and cook your breakfast... I'm gonna give PJC and the crew a nice long chance to figure this one out.

Where else can I have so much fun for free (Besides in the seat of the Jeep... and we all know that ain't free!).

 

Where do you think that collective knowledge came from? You think it magicaly just popped in there. No, it came from the people like myself who post and respond to each others questions. So if you drive people away, then you drive away that valuble source of info. It is the "simple things" that give the board a sense of comunity. I agree we do not need a big long 2000 character sig, but taking away the 15k sig pic (which had no effect on the search feature) in the name of increasing speed (which it hasn't, I'm on 56k dial up so I should know) has removed some of that community feel. As far as edit times go, I to have reviewed some of my posts sometimes a week or 2 later and realized I misspelled something or put the wrong number in or any of a number of mistakes and corrected them (I am only human and do occassionaly make mistakes)(obviously unlike you whom seems to think your perfect) which I can no longer do if there is a time limit on editing, I'm curious if we can still delete a post after their time limit is up (which you could do before) if not, then after careful consideration, I would say the only reason they've impossed time limits is their fear that someone who gets pissed at the board will go thru and delete all of his or her posts (with that colective knowledge you talked about), just my opinion.
Personaly, I would say do away with sig sentances (which do play havoc on searches) and give us back our small sig pics(which really didn't effect speed) and back up the restrictions on size. It was the sig pic that jumped out at me and said "Hey this is me", gave a greater sense of community, and let people know what you WHEELED, which is what this board is really all about, not little gay pics in the corner of cats or the Blues brothers or whatever. If I had come to this board for the first time in the last week and seen all these wimpy little "avatars" as they call them, I would have left because I would have said to myself " here is another bunch of cyber geeks wishing they were into off roading" unlike when I originally came and saw OFF-ROAD vehicles in sig pics that jumped out and said "hey, we don't just type about it, WE DO IT!"
Sorry this got long winded but I have felt an overwhelming urge to scream "WHAT THE HE11 ARE YOU DOING OUT THERE?"

 

well said, krabysniper..
I was going to mention about the gay kitty pic boy but you beat me to it....
thanks

anyway, I appreciate the moderators looking into fixing being able to edit posts...
thanks

if some of the other restrictions can be eased up a bit. like attachment size
I would appreciate it..

thanks

 

Im here for the long haul

 

Me too Mr. Parker...

 

The Avatars are more a humor or ID thing.

You scroll down until you find who your looking for, it's a big version of someones name..

Sorry if I don't have an über small picture of my Jeep that's all squished and looks like any other Jeep on here when it's that small...

It's more a marker for me then anything else.

I can scroll down a post, look on the left for a cat staring at me, then read on from there.

 

Like I have been saying about all the changes....there are people who like them and people who don't. Cannot please everyone!

Me personally, I didn't like the signature pictures.....and it was not only me. I get tons of email and pm's from people everyday.

I am here for the information and technical knowledge. I do not need to see signature pictures and long signatures to get my information. A lot of people do not like seeing the animated GIF's either. They do not help the information in these forums.

As far as attachment size, 50K is plenty to show what you want to show. There is no need to post 100K pictures.

The search feature does not use any information from signatures anymore. That changed with the software upgrade.

We'll see what happens once the speed issue of the board is resolved. Then we can talk about different features.

 

thanks for your reply chad...
I agree, the speed issue is the formost issue that needs to be resolved.. before anything else...

thanks

 

In reply to:

Every single time, I made an upgrade or change in any way, I have been faced by a small percentage of detractors that were unhappy with the work we did.

It's undoubetly going to happen, however, the aire I get is that their comments and concerns are just pushed aside. They're not unhappy with the work and effort, just the present outcome.

In reply to:

Like I have been saying about all the changes....there are people who like them and people who don't. Cannot please everyone!

Me personally, I didn't like the signature pictures.....and it was not only me. I get tons of email and pm's from people everyday.

I am here for the information and technical knowledge. I do not need to see signature pictures and long signatures to get my information. A lot of people do not like seeing the animated GIF's either. They do not help the information in these forums.

As far as attachment size, 50K is plenty to show what you want to show. There is no need to post 100K pictures.

The search feature does not use any information from signatures anymore. That changed with the software upgrade.

I am seeing this as a "for the greater good" reasoning, which is often applied to everything from the environment to gun control. Just because you "think]" it's for the greater good doesn't mean it's so. Think about it, how many times have the eco-nazi's used that line of reasoning.

Well, me personally, I did like the pictures, as did many others. I also like the sigs and animated GIF's. They DO help the information in these forums, as stated earilier, because it gives people a sense of being "home" so they'll take more time to post, and generally spend more time here. I don't go to JU anymore because of the attitude over there, same thing with POR, even though they may have lots of good tech stuff to offer. They just aren't "home" to me, and others have mentioned this as well. And if the sig is no longer part of the search feature, why limit it to 100? If an extra 100 characters is putting us over the top, we are in serious touble. Maybe limit each post to 1,000 characters then to keep the "traffic" low. After all, it'll help right? If you can't say it in 1,000 characters, then maybe people need to be more brief or maybe it doesn't need to be said. Yes it's being sarcastic, but see how the train of thought is flawed?

50K? Damn, that's not a large pic. 100K wasn't a large pic either. There are some pictures that simply need to be shown large. A case in point is a comparison where 2 items are side by side. Enough detail should be shown to where you can make out the differences. I noticed this earlier today, where you could barely tell what the differences were. I don't want to have to resize all of my pictures to 50K, or crop them to get the detail, so instead I just won't post them at all. See how that hurts the Board?

I am here for the long haul, I've been here since '96. I am just not buying the reasoning behind a lot of the changes, I think the reasons are bogus and not getting to the root cause, just alleviating the symptoms temporarily. Kinda like taking aspirin for a recurring chronic headache, the overall problem is not being addressed. I, like a lot of others, are waiting patiently to see what happens next, which is why a lot of feedback isn't pouring in (that's my opinion anyway). Hopefully the next round of changes will improve the speed a little more and will bring back some of the little nuances that made this BBS a great place to hang out.

Like was mentioned before, this is just constructive criticism refuting some of the earlier posts. I appreciate the work being put into the BBS and will still remain, no matter what the outcome. However, without some feedback, things will remain status quo, and I wouldn't perfer it stay that way.

Respectfully, I am...

 

Bravo,

Very well put, I second those emotions.

 

Maybe there should be a compromise, at say 75K on picture size. There are some cases where something may need to be bigger than 50k, but there's really no need to have 100k.
a 50K jpeg is pretty darn big, This is 47k:

 

Ok, I liked sig pics and I liked them better when people put the actual text of whats on there rig in the pic itself so it didn't screw up searches, which I just learned isn't a prob. now. But, the mods say just to look in there profile to see what they drive or what stuff they have done to the vehicle. Well, I don't know about all of you, but I don't click on every single persons name to view there profile every time I see a post. When the info was in there sigs I could glance at it while I was scrolling down and if something interesting cought my eye I would check there profile for maybe a link to a homepage or something. But anyway, the bbs is having some faster days now but about 25% of the time it's still slow. And I don't just mean during peak hours. I've tried to get on at 3am before and it still will take 10 minutes to load the orc sfa board

. Ok, next thing, about edit post time limits. The reason alot of us don't like the time limit is because if someone posts a question, and we know the answer may be in another post. We will post saying it's in another post, then go find that post and edit the link into the post we made. And sometimes we cannot do it right away and then we try and the time has run out. I don't see how a time limit on post editing can have any affect on speed. But I was being born in 1982 and not working on bbs software like PJC

. I do appreciate all the work you guys are doing and I want to let you know that it is improving ever so slightly with each change you make. And don't ever turn off the new post tracking again!!! I was just about to have a nervous breakdown trying to figure out what I had already read and what I had not

.

EDIT: Oh yeah, about the word count limit on sigs, I understand why you don't want sig pics, due to the file size, but as long as there text based what does it matter? I mean a letter is a byte, thats pretty dang small. And since it doesn't screw up searches anymore, maybe you can fatten the limit up a bit to allow some people to put some vehicle info in there.

Well, EDIT Again: I noticed that you upped the edit time to 72 hours and that should work nicely. Nevermind on that subject.

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I personally think 50k is PLENTY big!! There is really no need to post something bigger. I just think the majority don't know how to resize their damn pictures. Yeah, resizing is a hassle. I'll agree. I used to just take a photo, then post it. Now I have to open Adobe and do some work. But oh well. I don't care. It's going to take me all of 10 seconds to click a few buttons and shrink the sucker. I'm beginning to post all my pics at webphotos.com anyways, so I don't eat the server's space up.

 

what program do you use for this 47k picture..

I use photo editor, and paint shop pro..

and am not able to get that much detail as you have successfully shown in your picture...

let me know what you are using, and I will switch to it and use it for my pictures and not complain about the 50k thing...
PM me if you want...
thanks

 

I use Microsoft Photodraw. Most imaging programs can do that, but Photodraw is one of the easiest. My job involves managing several websites and that's all I use for image editing. It has a wizard that automatically adjusts color depth, compression level, and resolution.

Pain Shop Pro is pretty easy to work with as well:
1. Crop the image to show only the subject. If the picture is showing your Truck, crop out the house, the minivan, and the neighbor's dog.
2. Resize the picture to something like 400-500 pixels wide
3. Reduce the resulation to 72 DPI - this is a biggie - that's all most monitors display, so anything over that is a bigger file size with no better quality. I think this is what most people don't do.
4. Reduce the color depth as far as you can without it looking funny
5. When you go to save the image, there is an option to adjust compression level. Set it as high as you can without losing quality - it'll take some trial and error to find what works best.

 

hey thanks... I will look at the DPI... I have not looked at that one...