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#1 ·
Really confused now. I found a company on the web that claims to be a specialty Jeep parts shop. On their website they mentioned that they have a large selection of used axles that they have reworked. I thought, what the hell, I'll call them and see how expensive it might be. I asked for D30 front, D44 rear wide track out of a CJ. From my understanding these would be a direct bolt on for a '67 Jeepster. The guy on the other end said that they would have to be custom made for a couple grand each. I tried to get him to explain why and he said it was because of the differential offset. I explained that I had talked to other folk who said it was a direct bolt in, but he wouldn't budge, said they would have to be new custom axles.

Am I off my rocker? Is this guy just trying to get me to buy new axles, or does he not really know what he is talking about?

Sorry to beat this axle discussion like a dead horse, but I am really confused.

Thanks,

Paul


 
#4 ·
THe guy is one of those "Jeep know it alls" ass hole in the lastest terms. I was searching for add a leaves, and called up mile high Jeep rebuilders. I told them that I wanted an add a leaf for a 70 Jeepster Commando. THe guy just almost yelled at me thinking I knew nothing. "No body makes anything for Jeepsters" I said they did, and after about 1 minute of conflict I was able to get him to look in the book. Whoops! "I...I...I... did not know...." "Exactly, guess I will order else where, thank you." click. Anyway, gust tell this moron that you have the Jeep that the parts are coming off, mention nothing of the Commando. Otherwise you might get flak that you don't need. There are no problems with wide track as far as bolt on, just get both either narrow or both wide. THe guy is an idiot, get the project done, and then send them a picture, or else, get them else where.

John
yes, my user name is a typo, go figure.
 
#6 ·
John,

Well, I came pretty close to telling this guy I didn't think he knew what the hell he was talking about, and then I remembered your email this morning. If I don't even know the difference between a front clip and the grill then maybe I shouldn't really be accusing people of being stupid. I figured I was better off sounding it off the board and making sure I was right before making a stink. Not sure now whether or not I will call them back, I don't really want to give my business to people who aren't really helpful.

Paul


 
#7 ·
Trust me, you know more. You heard the conversion on this board, you saw the pics, it is the law. I can see being cautious, but he does not havwe a Jeepster, you do. End of story. If you even had some sort of axle, it can be modified anyway, no worries. It sounds like a good deal anyway. Ask for prices, say you have a CJ, and then tell us, they may tell you you are wrong and even then try to rip you off! Stand gaurd, idiots at work.

John
yes, my user name is a typo, go figure.
 
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#9 ·
If you want a set of 30 frnt and 33rear axles call jack at no exuses, they will cost you arond $650 delivered his phone number is 1-800-923-JEEP. you also get a cool no exuses stiker! haha lol, he has great buy son evrthing and he has the cheapest lockrites

on the add a leafs, het them for a 70s ford highboy, my dad had a set on his jeepster before he did the springover

 
#11 ·
Half Cab,

Thanks for the lead. I'll give them a call. But, now you have me thinking of more questions, how does a 33 rear compare to a 44 in terms of weight and strength? If I end up with a V-8 up front am I really going to need a 44 in the rear? Oh, and I am assuming these are used axles?

Thanks,

Paul


 
#12 ·
THe 33 was a typo, I can spot them pretty good now, lots of personal experience. D44 is what he wanted to get across. As for add a leaves, I am going spring over, never ended up with any. Rancho seems to be the kind to get, aabout $40 for both rears. For fronts, the ride is said to be too stiff, go with a 2" CJ-5 lift spring, it will ride better. Bolt right on too, no hassle.

John
yes, my user name is a typo, go figure.
 
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#13 ·
The CJ springs are the same length but the tie bolt is centered 23"/23" in the CJ. The Jeepster tie bolt is offset 21"/25". You can use the CJ springs but you will have to move the spring forward 2" to keep your axle in the same location. Otherwise you will have your tires in the fender on the first bump in the road. YJ springs are also 46" long with a centered tie bolt but are 2-1/2" wide. Thanks for the info on the add-a leafs I found them yesterday in a Rancho catalog I happened across. They also make replacement front stock springs for the Jeepster. But no rear ones.

Carey Smith
71 C101
95 Ford Bronco/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gifYes, I traded the YJ for it
 
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#14 ·
Carey, do you have any additional info on the Rancho front springs, like part number or price? The narrow front springs for the Kaiser model are definately harder to find than the AMC's. I could use new front springs but don't need rears.
Gary

 
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#15 ·
Sorry I didn't get the part number or price. They are listed under Jeep Jeepster in the Rancho master catalog. It only had one listing and did not specify 1-3/4" or 2" wide. I found the catalog in the special order section of PepBoys. They have all sorts of catalogs there.

Carey Smith
71 C101
95 Ford Bronco/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gifYes, I traded the YJ for it
 
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#16 ·
If anyone is intersted I just talked to a guy in Northern CA who as a D44 rear and model 30 front that are narrow and run 3.73 gears. Both are complete drum to drum, and the front end comes with the tie rods. He wants 1000 for both. Here is his contact info. (707) 263-5250 Lakeport, California 95453. I saw his ad on the offroad.com free classified list. The ad says 100 for the axles, but it was a typo. Too bad.



Shawn Decker
69 Commando Wagon
 
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#17 ·
Thanks Carey. By the way guys, the reason I am looking for new front springs is the previous owner put Rancho Add-A-Leafs on the vehicle. This did no harm to the 2 1/2-in wide multi-leaf rear springs but the 1 3/4-inch wide, 4-leaf front springs now are sagging into an S-shape beyond both ends of the Add-a-Leafs. I think if you have the Kaiser model with the narrow springs, Add-A-Leafs ARE NOT A GOOD IDEA, at least not in the front. By the way, I don't have a V8 or winch or extra battery or any form of extra weight up front, the V6 is a vanilla 231 model.
Gary
'67 Halfcab Pickup