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Just got my New Tuffy overhead Console

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hey! Just wanted ya'll to know I recieved one the the first Tuffy overhead consoles.

First impression: Darn this thing is heavy. Tuffy makes some very sturdy products, and this is one of them! Nice design allows for speakers to be placed in the drawers or the radio/CB combo. My only concern is the only thing holding up the front end will by the two bolt from my footman's loop on my windshield.

If ya'll have any questions let me know. I plan on installing it later this week.


-Brian
93 YJ, 4.0L, Tuffy'ized interior
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That weak link in the mounting system is what's keeping me from ordering one.
Can it be mounted to a front cage bar, or just the footman hoops?
Also, what'd you pay for it?

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I've had a Steel Horse unit that mounts the same way for several years now. No problems with it working loose or falling...I don't see it being a real concern. Thinking about picking up one of those Tuffy's myself. It's adjustable length-wise, so mounting to a cage shouldn't be a problem.

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Yeah, it can be mounted to a front cage bar/pipe. Since I don't have that, I'll be mounting it to the footman's loop. I asked Tuffy about that and they said it's yet to fail and come loose.

I can't remember the exact price off hand, but I'll look it up.

In comparison to the CBRack -- Well... One of the main reasons I got the Tuffy was the fact that my radio and CB can be locked up as opposed to just hanging fromt he rack. IMHO, the CBRack is an overpriced piece of aluminum. The Tuffy console, while more expesive has a pretty good warrenty.



-Brian
93 YJ, 4.0L, Tuffy'ized interior
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If you have any kind of fabricating and designing skills the CBrack is a very cheap and easy project. I looked at buying one but my overhead sound bar would have made the installation impossible, so what did I do.... I spent $25 bucks, got a piece of aluminum 2'x4' and worked with a friend that has a break and made my own to fit over my sound bar. All the connections coming into the overhead rack are plugged connections to make removal (if necessary) quick and easy. My next project is a rear bumper with a swing out tire carrier and hi-lift jack mount. Total for project should be about $100.... sure beats $400 for some bumpers I've seen...

Steve

1994 YJ Sahara
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Jeepskate, I'm really suprised you'd buy any product from pot metal pony, ( Steel Horse ).

Gary
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My only concern would be that I have a CD player. Would the radio bounce around when hanging in the console or does the tray lock down also to stop shakes and rattles? I like the look and usefullness of the overhead console. I might just go ahead and get on for christmas. Its either the overhead console or a soft top. Still haven't decided. I guess I should get the overhead console first, for security reasons. I had my speakers stolen out of my jeep last week.
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Kiley

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Who has them. I have not seen anything on these.

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I just looked on the Tuffy website this morning and they don't have a picture of it yet.

Gary
Is there a picture on-line somewhere?

Thanks

1985 CJ7 4.2L, T-176, Dana 300, 2.5" lift, 31" tires, DurabakOn-Board Air
I bought it about 6-7 years ago when they first came out and noone knew they were chintzy yet. It's a little on the flimsy side, but works out great in my '86 for mounting my CB since it has AC and underdash mounting was impossible.

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Would like to respond to the comments regarding my CBrack.
Overpriced? Shipped anywhere in USA or Canada is $125.
Warranty? Return it for any reason for a full refund including all shipping. Don't know how I could improve on that except to pay you to send it back. None have been returned, I might add.
Piece of aluminum? Actually 2 pieces of aluminum, each 1/8" thick. The unit is strong enough to stand on. The break (90 degree bend on each side of each piece) requires a floor model sheet metal break that weighs about 2,000 lb to actually bend the aluminum. A light bench break will not bend the aluminum used in the CBrack.
Security of installed items? You are right. Nothing is locked on to the CBrack. Of course your engine isn't locked in, your tires aren't locked on etc. Not being sarcastic, just realistic. A thief will get your stuff if he wants it bad enough. I like Tuffy. Have two of their units in my own TJ. Have the center console and the large rear cargo box. What I have done in the past, will continue to do and suggest that anyone else do is put valuables inside one of these boxes or take it out of the Jeep. I have a Cobra and a GPS mounted to my CBrack. If I park in an area where theft is a problem, I remove both radio and GPS and either take them with me (rare) or put them in one of the Tuffy boxes. Removal can be accomplished in less than one minute total for both units.
The CBrack is very simple, very strong, very easy to modify and use. Don't let it's simplicity fool you into thinking it is something easily made in your garage. Square holes are punched in the upper section to accomodate the carriage bolts. The punch I use weighs close to 500 pounds. Sure you could drill round holes then square them up with a file. As previously stated the bends (breaks) in the aluminum require a very heavy duty sheet metal break.
The most frequent comment or type of comment that I get from new owners is that they were surprised at the strength and durability of the CBrack. Somehow my photos and internet information do not convey that.
Have not seen the Tuffy overhead console. Could you direct me to a web site that has a picture? I assume the Tuffy is made of steel like their other products. I chose aluminum for two reasons for the CBrack. First is durability. It will not rust. Secondly for light weight. Strength is not an issue as the CBrack will hold many many times the weight that can actually be mounted on it. The aluminum is more expensive than steel, but for this application, I feel it is much more desirable.
I will be happy to respond to any comments either private or public.
Thanks,

Doug '97 TJ
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Would be interested to know what kind of aluminum you used. The CBrack is made from 1/8" 5052 hard aluminum. In quantity it costs more than what you paid for your 2x4 piece. Total material cost including powder coating, again in quantity, but NOT counting labor of manufacture or cost of machinery necessary to produce the CBrack is about $50. It is built from quality material.
The CBrack is now available for the front mounted overhead soundbar application, BTW.

Doug '97 TJ
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Found the picture on the Leon Rosser site.
Looks nice. Would suggest that you investigate the possibility of installing additional heavy duty sheet metal screws in the unit where it attaches to the windshield frame. My experience has been that the footman loop screws are not sufficient, and the CBrack should weigh considerably less than the Tuffy unit.
Price, BTW, as listed by Rosser is $219.95 plus shipping.

Doug '97 TJ
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Doug,
I wasn't putting your unit down, in fact if it would have been available with the soundbar modification, I may have bought it. The reason I got the aluminum cheap is i can buy scrap pieces from an industrial salvage. I also have access to a large break (one of my buddies works in a custom race engine and body shop) I wasnt trying to drum business away from you (don't worry I'm not going to build anymore and sell 'em), I just find more satisfaction in building up my Jeep myself, rather than paying someone else too.
I have no doubts that your product is of good quality. Sorry for any offence taken.

Steve

1994 YJ Sahara
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Steve,
Let me appologize too. I wasn't offended, and obviously came across as if I were. Not the case. As a matter of fact the CBrack resulted from just exactly what you describe in your first post. I looked for something to buy to do exactly what the CBrack does. Wasn't on the market, so I tried to fab something in my own small shop. Had some aluminum left over from another job that did NOT involve bending the aluminum. Hadn't ever done any sheet metal fabrication, but it ain't rocket science. Lest I be accused of putting sheet metal people down, I'm not doing that either. Trying to make the point that the CBrack is a simple design. It is easy to make IF you have the right tools. A half inch bolt is a simple design too. Try making one in your shop out of a piece of drill rod and a file. Tools again, but the conceipt is simple. Figured I'd spring for a small sheet metal brake cause I didn't have one and figured I'd find more use for it in the future. It was a good excuse to add a tool to my shop. Long story short, the $500 or $600 bench brake that I anticipated turned into a 1,900 pound $3,800 monster. It was SMALLEST box and pan brake that would do the job I needed done. NO motors either, all man power. Because of the compound angles a box and pan brake is necessary. A regular solid brake will not work.
I looked at a picture of the new Tuffy console. The two units are the same in principle only. It appears, and let me emphasize that I have not seen one close up, but it appears that you can put some definite pros and cons on each side of a fairly easily defined line. Without further investigation I will propose that the Tuffy excells in protection from theft and having something that has moving parts if that impresses you. The CBrack does not protect from theft, but offers more mounting room, will hold more weight, is lighter (weight and the fact that the CBrack has two additional mounting points in the windshield frame is the reason it will hold more weight), is about half the price of the Tuffy, but has no "glove compartment" type storage. I am assuming that the Tuffy does have this type of storage, although I could not see that in the small picture I saw.
Getting back to the material used in the CBrack, it is perhaps heavier and stronger that it needs to be for "normal" usage. My design is aimed at the street market as well as the off road market. It is built to withstand the rigors of off roading not only the bouncing around, but also weather, tree limbs, and the ultimate - using it for an "oh, sh--" grab handle. It will do it all. I weigh over 300 lbs. Don't move around very well especially in cramped quarters. I regularly use my CBrack to pull myself up out of the driver's seat. Not a problem.
Last weekend I attended a 3 day run in Hot Springs, Ark. - A Superlift run. Ran across one of my earlier CBracks mounted on a TJ. The unit is close to 2 years old. The owner had a large CB, his cell phone, a huge CD changer, a speaker and a couple of smaller odds and ends mounted on the CBrack. Looked like part of the console of an airplane or maybe an old county sheriff's car. He was very happy with it. Don't believe there would be enough room on the Tuffy unit to mount all that stuff.
There may be some competitive aspects between the Tuffy and the CBrack, but I believe people will have good reason to buy either one. Might be price, security, usability, ease of modification or appearance. Doubt seriously my sparkling personality will be a factor. /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

Doug '97 TJ
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