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/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif Off-topic posting CAN use up a lot of space on this BBS, and most of it doesn't have anything to do with Jeeps.........or does it? EVERY topic that exposes the left-wing eco-nazi Klintunoid-type whacko anti-everything liberal democrap freedom grabbers for the threat that they actually are is GOOD. BECAUSE.....the more you DO that, the more you can get people to quit listening to their teacher's union or their trade union, or their stupid friends who tell them to vote for a #*@!!/ democrap. After all, it WON'T MATTER which transmission you put in your Jeep IF JEEPS ARE OUTLAWED! And the democraps want to make the whole population dependent and helpless so that THEY can make your decisions FOR you. They want the communist utopia that the Hillary Klintunoids have always dreamed about implementing in this country. If you haven't seen evidence of that in the last seven years, well, shame on you for being so naive. To paraphrase a famous person: "When they outlawed Jet Skis, I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jet skier; when they outlawed ATVs I didn't speak up because, well, I didn't have one of them either; when they outlawed guns, I didn't speak up because I didn't shoot; when they outlawed dune buggys I didn't speak up because I don't like sand; when they outlawed trail bikes I didn't speak up because I didn't have any motorcycles. Finally, when they outlawed Jeeps, there was no one LEFT to help ME speak up. Better to make a fuss NOW, than to wait till the Eco-nazis and their liberal democrap masters OWN this country!/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif

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Hey, I modified that famous saying myself once, only I think it was something like:

"When they outlawed 44's, I said nothing because I had 35's.
When they outlawed 40's, I said.......... " and so on.

Off-topic is always going to crop up when "friends" get together. I've yet to go to a 4x4 club meeting where hunting season, Mother's day, a new house under construction, or some other topic didn't find its way into our conversations - either during or after the meeting.

But, everyone has a different "tolerance level" for off-topic threads. When 6 or 7 of 'em pop up on the same day, then folks will start to complain & grumble. And while you're very, very correct to say:"EVERY topic that exposes the left-wing eco-nazi Klintunoid-type
whacko anti-everything liberal democrap freedom grabbers for the threat that they actually are is
GOOD."
, some folks do come here to forget about all that other stuff & concentrate on fun things like Jeeps. I think we all need to be mindful & respectful of those folks, and when the off-topic stuff escalates to the point of generating complaints, we could back off for a bit to "ease the tension" - so to speak. Now, I'm as guilty as ANYONE for off-topic threads, so I sort of "see myself" when I hear the complaints. And I usually try to back off - for a few days anyway./wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif 'Course, today's Friday, so LOOKOUT!/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif

Anyhow, it's up to us to try to dance on that fine line between "too many" & "just enough" off-topic threads so the admin doesn't have to do anything. Reminds me a bit of life in general & a song in particular by Rush called "The Trees". Can't remember the lyrics word for word, but the general gist is that:

The maples are mad at the oaks for hogging all the sunlight, but the oaks just don't understand why the maples can't be happy in their shade. So, the maples decide to "make" the oaks give them light. And a noble law was passed so that all trees would be kept equal by hatchet, ax, and saw. Granted, we have only the admin here, not the government. But, the statement is one I think you in particular will appreciate. If we can't make it work on our own, Big Brother will come in & we'll all have to deal with some level of oppression in the name of "fairness". Which of course is a politically correct way to say if we don't fix it ourselves, the government will come in & really hose things up. Gettin' a little off off-topic, so I think I'd better let it go at that/wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif.

Later,

TEX

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I guess the older I get I am tiring more quickly with people... I have been away from this board and travelling for my job a bit, and you always see them... on the plane in the 3-piece suit, yapping on the cell phone until the plane leaves, and back on it as soon as it touches down, yelling about 'market share', and similar crap. /wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif Life is short, people, and if you live your life that way, you will wonder where it has all gone when you're done. So please don't just sit there and say that "the board should be all Jeep, without anyone's comments, etc." We're all people, dudes, not robots. I can't see how these people can live their lives that way. CJDave's comments, and others, are one of the main reasons I visit this site. /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif.

Off-topic posts are good. They're fun, innocent, and often humorous. If you think your opinion is the right one, try to say why. If you get challenged, maybe you will find you are wrong, or change your mind about things, or the other person will. Either way, we all stand to learn something. So, lighten up a little, live your life - you only get one, you know - and relax.

Pete. ...and you'll see me on the plane. I'm the one in the sweatpants and the t-shirt. /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

..stepping off my soap box. /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

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I think off topic posts encourage dialogues that promote our hobby and raise our level of education. Since the last blow up, I've tried to stay away from off topic stuff, but why? If I find the topic interesting, I'm going to post my opinion. I think that's ok. I understand that some people don't want to come here and read off topic stuff and that's fine, I understand and I'll try to keep it at a minimum. However, my opinion is as important as yours and I LIKE THE OFF TOPIC POSTS. What I don't understand is why 2 or 3 people have to post to an off topic thread saying "Don't post off topic threads here, we don't want to see them." It's 2 posts out of 27 that say that.

Please, people, we understand that you want ONLY Jeep threads, but that's never going to happen here, so please, please, don't stir the pot by posting your complaints about an off topic post in the off topic threads. It really infuriates me to no end! The post is there, it's off topic and you're posting your complaint about it will not make it go away.

I just knew as soon as I saw the "PETA" subject line that this crap was going to happen. So predictable. So is the next post I'll see.. very predictable. "Can I fit 33's under my Jeep?" "TeamRush Ignition Upgrade Doesn't Work". Geez, the same guys complaining about off topic threads are the ones too ignorant to due a search on their questions that have been answered 5000 times already and then get pissed because everyone else is tired of posting the same responses. They are the same guys who have the same routine everyday and can't figure out why their life is so dull or why they didn't get that promotion. Single track, closed mind and never objective, only subjective.

Now I'm sick of posting replies about off topic posting. So why don't we all just go about our business and respect everyone's opinion and get along. Why must there be dissention about something so insignificant as an off topic thread?

Man, I like the Jeep stuff, but information about a Wrangler won't help me with my CJ so I don't read those posts. I don't read the ones about axle conversions cause I don't ever see myself needing a bigger axle. Accordingly, if you are interested in the off topic stuff, SKIP IT. MOVE ON. Go out and take your wife to an unexpected dinner and get some variety. Open your mind and see what is outside your sheltered world!

Thanks for letting me vent, work has been crappy lately and this is just the discussion that I needed to release my tension.

Next post... "Wallyworld, Playground of your Dreams"



Carl, Tampa, FL, 74 CJ-5
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if the subject is not of your liking, then don't read it...however, if you don't like what is being said, why can't you voice your opinion? You should, and are able to do that with this forum...that is why we are and should be allowed to post off-topic thoughts/information...The Jeep bbs is a public forum...aside from obscenities and personal attacks, the First Amendment applies to all. not all of my posts are off-topic, but i do like to see other jeeper's opinions...i just find it interesting...once again if the subject doesn't appeal to you, don't read it!

/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif"Jeep"... for President/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif
 
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If you want to make an off topic post about anything other than Jeeps and it has even remotely to do with our rights to do what
we want, feel free to post on the Land Use General Discussion board. As Sandman mentioned in another similar thread, there are
only about a half dozen or so of us that use that board with any regularity, and we have still managed to do 700 posts! Hey, we
even tolerate our funny uncle Goud sometimes, or usually we just humor him until finally one of us (usually Felgin!) can't take his bs
anymore. Anyway, look at my signature, and if you don't know me you will know where I'm coming from, along with 15 years of
Jeeping I've noticed there is alot more to our sport.

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"I just knew as soon as I saw the "PETA" subject line that this crap was going to happen. So predictable. So is the next post I'll see.. very predictable. "Can I fit 33's under my Jeep?" "TeamRush Ignition Upgrade Doesn't Work". Geez, the same guys complaining about off topic threads are the ones too ignorant to due a search on their questions that have been answered 5000 times already and then get pissed because everyone else is tired of posting the same responses. They are the same guys who have the same routine everyday and can't figure out why their life is so dull or why they didn't get that promotion. Single track, closed mind and never objective, only subjective."

You know, I was going to lets this stuff go...and just roll with it. I said my peace about the OTP in the PETA thread. However, I challenge the POSTER of the above CRAP to find one instance where I've fit HIS BS above. I come to this forum because I have an interest in jeeps and wheeling, not to read about PETA, et al. I rarely ask for advice from this forum. I offer replies when I can.

And BTW, I do find CJDaves posts interesting, informative and sometimes down right humorous. /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

Lets see: I already run 33s so I don't care if they'll fit, I run a 4.3L Vortec engine, so I could care less if the TeamRush ignition works or not... and I know how to use the search engine.

Sorry if I sound a bit PO'd, or have offended you, but I am tired of all the OTP are ok replies, and then many of them "whining" about folks who don't care for them... It goes BOTH ways. I fails to see how many of these replies are anything but:

"Single track, closed mind and never objective, only subjective."

I'll now go back to "ignoring OTP" and answering questions where I can. /wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif

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I think everyone should get to post one new topic for each topic they respond to, even if the reply is just their opinion and they don't have a clue what they are talking about. That would keep the repeated new posts down. Pretty cool idea huh!

I like the off the topic posts every now and then, but if I don't have any interest in the topic, I just don't click on it. I don't know what PETA is so I didn't click on that discussion.

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Doug '97 TJ [no] I would of expected more than that out of Doug./wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif
there is only one thing that could of happen.
Must of burned his finger tips on some hot steel out of that milling machine.
Going to have to sharpen them cutting bits. /wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif
Sorry Doug saw your post and had to LOL. Makes the wife wonder if I'm as nuts as she thinks I am./wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif
When someone takes the time to read an off topic post when they don't like off topic post .
Then takes the time to post to the off topic post. Make's me wonder.
Is that person one of those that live to whine,Or just wants to control
other people??????
 
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Being old, fat, semi senile and cantankerous makes it difficult to come up with humor. Have always appreciated good humor and wished I had the quick wit that seems to come to some with ease, but like me ol' pappy used to say, "Even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then." I didn't even know hogs ate acorns.

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I certainly haven't been on this board as long as some other people. I also certainly don't know as much about jeeps as many. Do off topic posts bother me personally? No, if I'm not interested, I don't click on them. What bothers me is how quickly our fellow posters degrade into insults. I occasionally ask stupid questions. After a few weeks, I realized that I should search the board for answers before I go posting a new question...easy enough. I ask far more questions than I post solutions, but I help when and where I can. But the more time I spend on this board, the fewer responses I feel comfortable posting. It's not that I don't know the answers, it's that there are multiple ways of thinking about and doing everything, and I worry that someone's gonna bite my head off. I try to avoid flaming, and when a post goes into a flame, I try to stay out of it. I have nothing personal against anyone, and I appreciate help from all, so I hope no one takes this as a slam in any way...once again, I fear that someone will get offended and I will fall onto some list of jeep BBS individuals in poor repute. When someone is being unreasonable, it is certainly ok to tell them so, but it is unneccesary to flame them in the process. When someone is posting the same "what lift do I need" question, by all means, refer them to the search engine until they come up with a newer, more specific question. The post I just made on axle trusses refers back to a discussion we had several months ago. Sometimes, posts on the same topic are helpful, they give us a chance to hear what progress our fellow jeepers have made, and any new perspectives/ideas they've had in the past few months. I don't mean to tell anyone how to do their posting, but I'll share what I do, and maybe it will help.
1. If I have a question, I use the search engine to try to find the proper answer without posting anew.
2. If the search engine produces no results, or if it produces vague or inadequate results, I try to post an intelligently worded, clear question detailing my exact problem/concerns/hopes, and I look for intelligently worded responses that provide reasonable sounding solutions.
3. If someone posts a question that has already been answered, I refer them to the search engine to find the answer. If it is a modified version of an old question (i.e. the axle truss question, or our continued discussion of variations on the dual battery setup) then perhaps new discussion is warranted.
4. If it doesn't interest me, I don't worry about it. If I don't want to discuss something, I don't read or post on it.
5. I try to remember that there is someone looking at a computer screen and taking time out of their life to respond to posts on the BBS behind every screen name.
6. If someone posts a dangerous or unsafe way of doing something, post the correct way of doing whatever it is that need be done. Don't flame, even if the unsafe individual persists in their unsafe ways. If your way is better, other reasonable individuals will see it from your post compared to the unsafe post.
7. There are several people on this board who have a broad range of knowledge. I try to pick their brains when I have a non-jeep question that I think they would know the answer to, because this is the only forum for conversation that I have with them. I don't think the land-use forum is the place for questions about superchargers, nor do I think it's the place for questions about PETA. Is the jeep bbs? Well, I like to think that we have a jeeper community here on the bbs. Sometimes, I like to share stories with my fellow jeepers, even when they're not jeep related. I imagine that everyone else is the same way. If something really bothers me, or intrigues me, I might want to know what my fellow jeepers think about it, PETA or otherwise.
8. If I can help save a fellow jeeper time or money by pointing out an error in thought/reasoning in a post (or a for sale ad), it is something that I would try to do.

I think politics are a very important part of our world and our country. Since this is our forum for discussion with our bbs friends, it would logically follow that from time to time we use parts of the bbs to discuss that which interests us. You know, I have some friends who live in the city that got PETA pamphlets in the mail, full of lies about farmers. The only way that they found out what the truth was was by talking to me. If there's someone on the bbs who can find out the truth by asking a question or posting about PETA...someone who doesn't have access to a farmer, I think it's great that they do so. Or if I can ask a question about superchargers and learn the history and mechanics behind them and why/where they're used, that's fantastic, even if it's not jeep related. Perhaps the original purpose of this bbs was to simply discuss jeeps and jeep related issues. To that I'd say one of two things:
1. Jeeps are a part of my life. These issues are a part of all of our lives. The two intersect somewhere...perhaps this bbs is the place where they meet.
2. This board has grown beyond its initial purpose of discussing jeeps. With jeeps being a part of everyone's lives, as we enhance our jeeps, we enhance ourselves and our skills. And along the way, we have discussions about our lives and not our jeeps that make us better people as well as better jeepers.

Someday, I hope to meet a lot of the individuals behind the screen names. I'm sure TEX is bigger than life, CJDAVE could drive a Mack from Califonia to New York backwards and blindfolded, and TEAMRUSH could embarrass MacGuyver by making a complete ignition system out of a paperclip and 1 lithium watch battery. This BBS gives us all the chance to learn more about each other across many topics beyond jeeps. And if it's not your bag, don't let it concern you. It would deprive all of us of a great experience if someone limited this bbs to technical jeep only posts. And the anger and rudeness that flares up on this bbs from time to time slowly works to deprive us of that experience as well. Sorry this is so long. I've been bothered by this for quite some time now. My moonguys are all tired now, so I'm gonna go back outside and take the second shift...
Deano

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off topic posts are alright, the thing that really pisses me off is when the title of a post says:

"Jeep axles"

and when i open it is abunch of militia, homophobic, racsist , radical whining about the government trying to take our TV guides away

if you want to whine, and try to influence some poor hapless kids to buy guns, and hate everyone who doesnt look like your mirrors reflection, thats well within your rights, just put in the post subject :

" rascist homophobic radical gun fanatic rantings"

and I swear ill never bitch again about off topic posting

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/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif Bob, Ozark is testing to see how much self-control I can muster on the spur of the moment. He knows that as soon as he uses the Klintunoid Liberal term: "homophobe" that he'll get a right-wing radical religious militia fanatic reply from me. "Homophobic" and "Gay" are two public relations masterpieces that the perverted tripe in this country put in place to describe people who recognize perversion and can see that it isn't "diversity", and to label themselves something that makes the public forget just exactly what it is that they do with each other and for which they want your legislated, force-of-law approval.It is my goal to get Qzark to vote against every damn democrap that he sees on the ballot. He's actually quite a reasonable guy, but has been (temporarily) brainwashed by the Klintuns to believe perversion is "normal"./wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

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Hey jeepgod,
/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gifDon't you know that speaking harshly to your Jeep can hurt its feelings?/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

If you want to cuss at it; go out of earshot!!/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif

PS...almost forgot....No, Dave, off (Jeep) topic posts are not bad. Strictly speaking, posts concerning other than Jeep vehicles are off topic, aren't they?
 

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Actually Dave,

that post wasnt directed to elicit any certain response from you, and im not brainwashed, Im just tired of opening a thread, and it not being what was stated on the subjet line, simple enough!

its like the guys who say its alright to post that stuff on teh SWB forum instead of the land use forum ( where I really think the land use issues belong).

they say " there are only 11 people in the land use forum" DUH,
what does that tell you?
those are the eleven people
you want to read your stuff!

the hundreds of people on teh SWB list want to read about technical stuff, not JEEP politics

OzarkJeep
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Im sure there are way more than 11 Greg, my point:

go look at the land use forum, then look at this forum

i i think the numbers speak for themselvs

OzarkJeep
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