I'm not sure this is "new" info, but I stumbled on THIS last evening. It has a few snippets of info regarding VIN/Serial #s for Jeeps in general.

 

Dave,

I looked over the page, seems like they only talked about either AMC or Jeep VIN's and nothing to do with Kaiser numbers.
The only numbers I've ever seen listed for after the letter "F" in the VIN is 1 or 2. I've searched a ton of sites for additional VIN information and have yet seen anything with regards to "3" after the F.
Of course I still want to see a true "2" vehicle with my own eyes also. Right hand drive would be a great vehicle to add to a collection.

 

My Hurst has the "3" after the F. The VIN number is 8705F37 69302 with a build date of June 1970. And yes it is cold in Montana. Brian G.

 

The one that Bub had on the auction Hurst ended in 68818. If we assume that all the Hursts where build in one run (which I would think would be likely), there where at least 484 built, higher than the 100 claims we have all seen.

Anyone else think it's likely they built them all at once. From an assembly line standpoint, I would think that would make sense.

 

With Kaiser.......nothing made sense! I really don't think that they built them all at once but then again.........ya never know. We get enough owners involved in this topic....just maybe we can find something out.

 

Hmmm...good thought, but I don't know. I had a '70 half-cab with an F3 , and my Hurst is an F1(and ends in 69578). I also have all the original paperwork with mine, which leads me to believe it is an original. My '68 is an F1...

And remember...in 1970-1971, AMC owned Jeep, and continued to use the original Kaiser Serial Number plates til the Commando came out.

 

My Hurst has ANOTHER cool metal tag on the firewall. It has a metal stamped tag from the Jeep Corporation that says "This vehicle was manufactured by the Jeep Corporation. Special Order Vehicle #D-5068"

Any Ideas there?

 

Hay guy's,all this fuss over Hearst edition this and vin. #'s that has fine'lly got to me too.so this is my two bits.I own a 1971 c-101 built in June 1970.I believe mine is a Hearst edition.There is a picture of it on pg. 5 of readers rigs, it's the turquoise one.My vin. # is 8705 F37 692##.So there you go.By the way I'm just another jeepster guy up here in the great northwest.P.S.the BBS is my first site every day!!Rock On Comndobob!

 

Chris: Your 2 VINs throw a curve ball on the whole thing!

Ok, Bob.....from what I have heard and read, Hurst models were White and only White. So this goes back to Chris' F3 also, what could this F3 mean if it's not "special" or "Hurst"?
It's been stated that F1 is left hand drive and F2 is right hand drive....so F3 is center drive???

There's got to be a reason for this code.

 

or maybe a back seat drive?

 

OK, This is something to think about. I hope to have a book soon that will help me, but think about it . It's not likely that Hurst had a place big enough to put 400 Jeepsters on a production line, at a time he was building Hurst Old's and the other ones he was working on. I say,till I know better, Hurst got them 10 or so at a time and built them. That way AMC could keep making the ones for the dealers that were not just white and he could be producing the rambler, olds and the others he was making at a lot bigger volume. That would explain the jump in the numbers in the vins of the Jeepsters. I have found 4 differn't books in the last couple of months that all say about 100 Hurst jeepsters made. Now that might be 4 places that they got the info. or they got it from the same source. A good place to look for answers might be to when he built the Rambler Hurst and the Hurst Olds and put two and two together. My vin is 8705F3764702 sold in July 1970. Lets all look into it and come up with all the possibles.

Any one that went to Reno will remember this "Over kill", poor trailer.

 

I was standing next to the trailer when Bob was driving it up, he drove right over the fenders of the trailer, maybe he beefed them up. Notice how he's near the rear of the trailer to take the tounge weight off the ASTRO VAN, or other mini van that he towed it with.

 

Re: Hurst VIN...FOUND SOMETHING!!

Some other Kaiser VIN Lists:

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/SerialNos/SerialNosEngine.html

http://www.specialtyparts.com/vins/65yr71c101vin.htm

http://home.off-road.com/~ozifsja/tech/vin/vin71.htm

NOTE THE THIRD LINK...It states that the "1" and "3" are left hand drive, and the "2" and "4" are right hand drive. Same with this one:

http://home.off-road.com/~ozifsja/tech/vin/vin68-70.htm

 

Re: Hurst VIN...FOUND SOMETHING!!

I don't know what that means...but if you look at the second link (to specialty parts VIN identifier) and then the 3rd and 4th link and check out the 6th digit, it looks like it could have gone either way. Both are "Left Hand Drive".

That would only mean my F3 Half-Cab and my F1 Hurst are both left hand drive...which I already knew...

 

Re: Hurst VIN...FOUND SOMETHING!!

Chris,

The last two links really don't suggest or relate to Jeepsters C-101s.
But notice on the other links...1 left 2 right....then there's a 3 missing.....and the next number used is 4 for the 4 cylinder which was standard in the Jeepster..LOL....has anyone even seen a standard engine in a Jeepster?? Anyway....back to the missing "3" , I still think it's got something to do with "Special". But what's special about a standard Jeepster that has a "3" in it if it's not a Hurst or SC?
We need more VINs with the 3 code in them...whether they're Hurst or not....maybe we can figure this out.

 

Re: Hurst VIN...FOUND SOMETHING!!

They don't say Jeepster, but they are Kaiser standards, so I figured they might provide some insight.

BTW, I have seen an original 4 cyl Jeepster before...about 5 years ago...wanted to buy it, but it was on the East Coast.

 

Production line wise, Jeepsters are all the same until you hit the paint booth and slap a roof on it.
I think it's possible they could have done it either way. Made 100 to 400 and found a corner to store them in, OR pick 10 off the line at a time. They could set the paint booth up pretty quick to pant 10 or so at a time.

 

Re: Hurst VIN...FOUND SOMETHING!!

East Coast?!! Where? How much? LOL

If you see another one let me know and I'll do the same for you if I find one out West!

But it does seem like almost everyone purchased the optional V6 during the production years, it must of been fairly cheap to do so.
Anyway, I'm going to setup a password protected webpage for F3 VINs. If anyone has an F3 VIN and would like to be a part of this please send information directly to me and not post it here. What I will do is log the VIN and stats on the vehicle (standard Jeepster, Hurst model, etc..) but will not post any owner info or locate stuff . Anyone involved in the VIN listing will get a password to view the list of VINs to see if there is a pattern or what with these F3 numbers. It's basicly the same as our Half Cab VINs on the website....private and only owners of Half Cabs can view it. Will this work for everyone????
Let me know and I'll start setting up the page.
Thanks

 

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Production line wise, Jeepsters are all the same until you hit the paint booth and slap a roof on it.

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Bobster, Don't forget about the "DELUX" doors, you know..the ones with the pressed leater pattern on the insides.

 

And don't forget the Convertibles. They have some non-standard parts (like the side windows and the piece above the windshield).

 

That's all stuff that's put on after the paint booth. (trim, conv. top mech.s, window,ect.). If it were installed befor painting, it would have to be masked (time is money). The body is painted, then all trim, windows, rubber, gaskets, and so on, are installed This is when the different model options are done. So it could have been quite easy to just take them from the line.

 

The convertible tubs are different and I think the windshield frame is also. And it's not something you could do after paint.

 

Remember a true convertible Jeepster has different side windows, rear rollup side windows and additional parts to make the top attach to the window. There was a soft top option for the roadster/wagon, but it isn't the same as the true Jeepster convertible. If you go to http://www.theagnews.net/jeepster you can see what I mean (look at the Drivers side back view).

 

Yeah, the true convertible isn't just bolt on stuff. Mine has a bunch of weird hinge plates, access panels, brackets, etc. that were clearly welded on before it ever made it into a paint booth. Too bad all the convertible parts were stipped off before I got it. Oh well.

 

But initially, the body is the same. At some point in production (perhaps befor convert. parts can be installed), they can pull a vehicle off (or skip a certain step), and designate it to a different option. Obviously, the Hurst was painted at Hurst (hood scoop and hood are painted with body), so it could have been pulled at any time. Or perhaps the hoods were produced and sent to the factory, we'll never know.