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High Idle Solenoids?

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Could someone please elaborate on the high-idle solenoid setup. I would love to do this for my on-board air. Where does the solenoid attach to the carb? Where can I get the solenoid? Is it possible that my Carter BBD already has this and I don't know it? What does it look like? As always I appreciate the help.

TOM85CJ7

1985 CJ7 4.2L, T-176, Dana 300, 2.5" lift, 32"BFG MT, Durabak On-Board Air
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/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif Tom, this is Christmas, so in the true spirit of the season, I will send you a high-idle solenoid. Our CJ7 SNOJEEP has one on it already because the intake is off a '91 Waggie. Yes, this little rascal is a Borg Warner number ECS-12, it is at least fifteen years old, and was a spare for one of our service trucks.....now long gone. I think it is actually for a Ferd. You just set up a little bracket that bolts to the carb base, and this little goodie POPS out and moves the throtttle. I just checked it and it pops out about 1/4". So, how about it? Wanna experiment?/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
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Hey Dave that little bugger's good for a hundred different things ain't it?

85'CJ7 258 4" runnin33's
/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif No kidding. We even had one to release the latch on a tool box. On our crane trucks they had a mickey mouse cable arrangement to speed up the engine.....something designed in Diz knee land...and gave a ton of trouble so we changed to electric. As soon as you flipped the control master switch, it energized the solenoid and gave it a little gas.....or in one case...Diesel. So, what KIND of yard are you workin' in? Auto? Industrial? Truck? 4WD?/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
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Actually if you check into the IFSJA website, its considered a anti-dieseling solenoid..

many have been wired ( by the owners not AMC) to boost the idle with the AC though

its easy to figure out when Non AC equipped FSJ have them..



ozarkjeep
1977 CJ5 looking for T18a and hardtop!
Auto.
Believe it or not in 5 years there has only been 3 cj's.(one's mine)
A rusted tub and 3/4 of a 73 cj5.
so I can't get too many parts there.
Hell I'm happy when I get a cherokee.(jeep.jeep hey we're getting a jeep)
Seriously as for the size we crush at least 1 (up to 3) load a day 6
days a week.


85'CJ7 258 4" runnin33's
/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif When they began dinking with the smog stuff in the early seventies, the engines developed serious run-on, especially the Ford family of fine cars. The term idle solenoid and anti-dieseling solenoid are actually used interchangeably, depending on the car and the vendor of the part. This BW here on the desk sez idle solenoid. The carbs had to shut off to zero to stop the engine so the actual idle adjustment sat on the prong of the solenoid./wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
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/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif Just after we bought the CJ we went to JW wreckers in Antelope CA where they have about thirteen acres of Jeeps. Awesome! VERY orderly too./wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
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Too cool!
We have a couple of "specialist"(horders of parts) around here but nothing
like that.
Remember I'm in o-HI-o.....rust,rust,rust.
Jeep yarrs around here are behind farmer browns barn if you can find them.

85'CJ7 258 4" runnin33's
Thanks Dave,
I appreciate the offer, but based on what you said I think I already have a solenoid on my Carb. There is a bracket holding a small cylinder with a pin sticking out of it right in front of my throttle. There is a red wire w\white stripe and a vacuum connection. Should I risk 12 volts to the wire? What else could this be?

Thanks,
TOM85CJ7

PS I'll pay shipping , if I don't already have one.

1985 CJ7 4.2L, T-176, Dana 300, 2.5" lift, 32"BFG MT, Durabak On-Board Air
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if you go to the parts house to find one of these little jewels just ask for an anti deisel solenoid for a mid seventies for pu with a 360. and it is true when they first started playin with egr valves they had major run on problems.

dan

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I’m in, this sounds great! My CJ7 has problems idling on some mornings. I have the same questions as TOM85CJ7. Do I keep the vacuum hose connected or can I plug this? I want to have this going through a switch in the cab. What power source do I use? Is there anyway to adjust the solenoid?


'83 CJ7 258 i6 31x10.5 3in. lift?
/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif THAT is the vacuum actuator, and it is in combination with the idle solenoid, the froomis, the fleeble, and the six-hundred other things that they hung on that carb. AM I GLAD that our CJ pre-dates the computerized carb days! SHEESH! Between the problems that the 258 gives, and that fuel system, it really keeps this BBS in thread. I look at our Alley Oop 304 with a "normal" carb on it and I an eternally grateful it is a '79 and not later. Of course we needed a Quadra-Trac, so it HAD to be '79 or earlier. You know, Tom, you COULD put the extra idle-advance auxillary solenoid
in another spot....it doesn't HAVE to be on the carb./wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
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Hey CJDave, what kind of power do I need to send to this thing? I have it there and the vac line is hooked up but no power and I can't find anything to connect it to.

'83 CJ7 258 i6 31x10.5 3in. lift?
/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif They take full voltage I do believe. (12)/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
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Here is a picture of what I think is my high-idle solenoid. Can anyone verify this? It looks as though the piston is to short to actuate anything.

Thanks

1985 CJ7 4.2L, T-176, Dana 300, 2.5" lift, 32"BFG MT, Durabak On-Board Air

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/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif You wuz expectin' a ten-inch throw??? Dats da idle solenoid all right. After all, how much movement does it take to crack the throttle plate enough to allow an extra 600 RPM of unloaded idle? /wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
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Thanks Dave and others....

1985 CJ7 4.2L, T-176, Dana 300, 2.5" lift, 32"BFG MT, Durabak On-Board Air
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