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I am trying to get my 1.6 TFI engine running and having some difficulties. Maybe someone has had this problem and knows a solution that can save me some time.

Here are some of the characteristics:

If you try to start it without giving it throttle it just turns over without attempting to fire. If you feather the throttle while trying to start it it sputters but doesnt start.

If you give it some gas just before you stop trying to start it, then you try to start it again right away, it fires right up and runs smooth for about 10 seconds and then dies out like it ran out of gas. If you feather the throttle when it tries to die you can keep it running and sputtering until it seems to get fuel then it runs smooth for another 10 seconds before dieing again. If you time the feathering of the throttle you can keep it running in those shorts bursts for a while.

The engine was removed from a running Tracker by me, complete with all the wiring connected. I installed it then plugged in the few things that I had to disconnect.

I am using the electric fuel pump that I used with my 1.3 and weber. I dont know anything about it so I will go see what brand it is and make sure it is flowing the right amount.

In case it makes a difference. There is no water in the engine as I havent installed the radiator or hoses yet. Wanted more room for working.

Lonny - Redmond, WA
87' Stomper, 1.6 EFI, SOA, Missing Links, Z-bar Eliminator, 5.125RP, 4.16TC, lockers, bead locks and 33" Boggers
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I think it is your fuel pump. The pump you have is a low pressure pump and FI needs a high pressure pump. FI pumps on zooks are inside the gas tank. Best be is to get one from a FI Sami but I don't know if this will fit a gas tank from a carbed Sami.
Low pressure pumps might put out 7 or a little better psi, while FI pumps are in the order of 20+ psi. If everything else is ok, this should get you up and running.....

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Thanks :)

I will go do some fuel pump research!

Lonny - Redmond, WA
87' Stomper, 1.6 EFI, SOA, Missing Links, Z-bar Eliminator, 5.125RP, 4.16TC, lockers, bead locks and 33" Boggers
http://www.mystomper.com
 

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Can you recommend a brand or vendor to buy a universal style high pressure pump?

Lonny - Redmond, WA
87' Stomper, 1.6 EFI, SOA, Missing Links, Z-bar Eliminator, 5.125RP, 4.16TC, lockers, bead locks and 33" Boggers
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i think crowhorse is right webers like 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 lbs
fuel pressure/efi systems need over 20 lbs pressure switch
to bigger pressure fuel pump--oldzuki

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Do NOT run a Purlator brand pump. I have been running a universal pump from AutoZone for about a year and it has worked excellent. Also, it is a good idea to ground your fuel pump to the battery.

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I went down to the parts store and they pulled out their handy fuel pump book and it said that I need a 55 psi pump that flows 60gph for a 1.6 suzuki!?

What are you folks with the 1.6 TFI engines running for a fuel pump? I can't find a pump an appropriate pump at the auto store or in my summit racing catalog.

Lonny - Redmond, WA
87' Stomper, 1.6 EFI, SOA, Missing Links, Z-bar Eliminator, 5.125RP, 4.16TC, lockers, bead locks and 33" Boggers
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Ryan, do you know the psi on that pump? are you running a 1.6 tfi engine?

Lonny - Redmond, WA
87' Stomper, 1.6 EFI, SOA, Missing Links, Z-bar Eliminator, 5.125RP, 4.16TC, lockers, bead locks and 33" Boggers
http://www.mystomper.com
 
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Call Brent at Trail Tough. He sells old Ford fuel pumps which are easy to mount and provide plenty of pressure.

 

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Besides the obvious (call brent at trial tough) what year ford 150's do they come off of? That would help me set up my engine. And while we are on the topic, why doesnt anyone use the fourwheel drive tranny from a tracker with the engine? I was just told that you could use the 2wd one, so what is the difference between the two? max

 

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The tracker doesnt have the divorced transer case like the sammi so you would need to use the tracker tcase also and until recently they didnt have a 4:1 kit for it.

Lonny - Redmond, WA
87' Stomper, 1.6 EFI, SOA, Missing Links, Z-bar Eliminator, 5.125RP, 4.16TC, lockers, bead locks and 33" Boggers
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ahaaa. so thats it. Never looked at it but i will now. What kind of horse power does the 16valve put out? I see one at the auctions about every week, and i actually picked one up, but i cannot decide whether or not it would be worth it over a regular 1.6v. Thanks for that info too, that was a quick response. Max

 

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I talked to Brent at TrailTough today and ordered the ford fuel pump. He confirmed what the book at the parts store said. The fuel injection on the 1.6TFI needs 55-70 PSI at 60g/hour.

Lonny - Redmond, WA
87' Stomper, 1.6 EFI, SOA, Missing Links, Z-bar Eliminator, 5.125RP, 4.16TC, lockers, bead locks and 33" Boggers
http://www.mystomper.com
 

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Nah I took the Tracker ECM and wiring harness out in pretty much one piece and installed it.

Lonny - Redmond, WA
87' Stomper, 1.6 EFI, SOA, Missing Links, Z-bar Eliminator, 5.125RP, 4.16TC, lockers, bead locks and 33" Boggers
http://www.mystomper.com
 
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