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As everyone knows the price of gas is getting ridiculous. Here in SoCal the cheapest unleaded regular is $2.34 and the highest I've seen is $2.60 Went to fill the tank today, she was pretty dry, and it cost me $22 bucks. I was feeling kinda robbed when I noticed the guy at the next pump filling his Hummer. It was up past $50 and the dials were still spinning. Cost him over $60 for a fill. Made me feel kinda good knowing he'll need two more fillups before I'm ready for gas.
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#27 ·
Re: whats so hard about throwing papers?

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Also Americans are not a diesel oriented country. Seems like the government and the EPA is keeping most of them out

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I love my '03 Dakota, but hate the MPG. Rumors have been floating around about a Diesel Dakota since the Germans took over. I'd trade mine in for a diesle in a heartbeat!

This year they started building the Diesel Jeep Liberty, so maybe other diesel vehicles are around the corner?
 
#28 ·
Re: whats so hard about throwing papers?

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Also Americans are not a diesel oriented country.

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I remember having a discussion about this topic on this BBS a couple years ago. I said that Americans asociate diesels with stinky black exhaust smoke and noise, something most people don't really want in a new vehicle. The person who was on the other side noted that modern diesels dont smoke or make much extra noise and I argued that I wasn't talking about reality, I was talking about perception, etc. It devolved into the usual wrestling match about pretty much irrelevent nonsense, like most of the arguments I have. Maybe I can dig up the thread for everyone to enjoy...
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~daxe

edit: here it is
 
#29 ·
Huh?

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whats so hard about throwing papers?

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That's funny. I wouldn't want to throw a 6 pound paper out of my car 500 times.
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For the life of me I can't recall what the original topic of this thread is (and I just read the whole thing) but being an outsider to the conversation I witness the funnay everywhere.

This thread is testament people can disagree about anything. However, I did an experiment this morning about jobs. Every place I stopped at I asked if they were hiring and asked about wages, experience, and flexibility. I'll list them off:

Cumberland Farms Convenience store a franchise here in the NE. Pay starts at $8.75, they will train (no exp necessary), and will work with your schedule between all shifts if needed. They are hiring all the time and offer an average of 5+ hours overtime a week.

Webster Bank Pay starts @ $8.55 with increases at 60 and 120 days. Will train, flexible for part timers. Saturdays are part of schedule.

The dump (our local refuse and tranfer station). Starts @ $7.50 with annual raises and the woman said "...if you get fired from this job you have to be a real jackass!" I asked her (she's been there as long as I can remember if) what she felt about her pay and she said her time invested made her overpaid by some standards but without her the "dump" would be in a state of confusion.

Stop and Shop grocery store. Pay starts at $8.25. Their lowest wages in the building. Depending on position and schedule a person starting could earn almost 11 dollars. They offer benefits for those whom work over 32 hours and are always hiring. No exp needed. Completely flexible at most positions --- The guy wouldn't let me leave the store he wanted me to work there so bad. He said the last person to be this inquisitive is now a manager at a sister store a few towns away. HAHA.

US Postal Service. They by far offer some of the best options. A part time employee starts a little over $9, full-time has incentives allowing wage increases after training and STARTS at over $11. That is just starting. The more you learn the more advancement opportunity you have equaling pay wage increase. There are 12-16 jobs available withing the next three months in our area between F&PT. The person whom I spoke to gave me a list of opportunities faxed to her in other locations. They were no less than a 30 minute drive but she said getting a foot in the door allows a good chance to be transfered somewhere close to home.

Home Depot- Pay depends on position and experience. Some postition do not require exp, they will train. Those positions start at $9. Temp FT jobs start at $15 w/o benefits. They keep the best of the temps after the contract is up (according to the manager). Flexible between shifts weekend hours are required.

I spent about an extra hour and a half throughout my travels today inquiring and what I learned was there are jobs out there, you won't be living Heffner's or Oprah's life but it might be better than what your doing now and less stressful.
 
#30 ·
Re: Huh?

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That's funny. I wouldn't want to throw a 6 pound paper out of my car 500 times.

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But you go to a gym and lift weights. Go figure.

Ya know, maybe it's because my parents owned a subscription mailing business when I was growing up and from age 11 (yes, eleven) I was either loading hundreds of 25 lb cartons of magazines into or out of trucks and station wagons and carrying them up and down stairs every day after school and full time in the summer, or reloading 50 lb US Mail bags full of the same magazines after they were addressed and presorted and bundled and unloading them at the post office, but (run-on sentence aside) I still don't think 500 - 6 lb newspapers sounds like a lot of work to handle.
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I guess it really is all in perspective.

Nice research, CTB! You are always good for throwing a thoughtful wrench into the works.

~daxe
 
#31 ·
Yakov was voted -- two-timing comedian of the year

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But you go to a gym and lift weights. Go figure.

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Oh, I could do it because I do work out. But I go to the gym for a quality of life thing, not to be able to hulk something 75 feet out of my driver's side window at 4:30 in the morning. If it were my job and I had to do it, I would, it just doesn't sound like a job I want. Plus the gym has tight little booties bouncing around and they are connected to little hawtie twenty-somethings and milfs. The only thing I want to throw at them doesn't weigh 6 lbs (I could only wish
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Thing is, I can see everyone's points. That doesn't convince/sway me to think one way or the other though because I know I have a choice to make something happen. I started my business using my $500 VW Fox and didn't even own a nail pouch/ tool belt. Hell, I borrowed tools. Less than two years later I own a 6.6 ton turbo diesel and A LOT of tools to make my job easier. The best thing IMO there is no debt connected to the acquisition to all of it; just planning and sacrifice that pays off. Partly, I can thank the Samurai hobby for helping me... because when I needed something job specific I knew I could part out a rig I bought out of someone's yard or bartered for.

I think that is where Daxe's thought comes from too. He is a very smart person that thinks outside of the box many times--- A thought process that offers-up the ability to tackle a problem in multiple ways. Then again it could be simply called thinking...

A lot of times we get sucked into a job and it seems like we're forced to stay there as we slowly extend ourselves. Thankfully this isn't post-slavery South America. We can make adjustments, seek out new jobs, and create opportunity. A woman whose child I teach told me a great story about inventing opportunity. She, a single mother of three less than calm boys, couldn't find time to make the extra money to dig herself out of a rut forced unto her. She thought about her skills, hit up the internet (from her children's' school library), and realized she could create an opportunity with little investment other than time. She now makes a few extra hundred a month advising and creating recipes for all sorts of places: Hotels, restaurants, and internet sites. All the while she kept her regular job. Who knows, maybe eventually this woman will expand to do the thing she loves full time and move out of ghetto tenements but she is a success because she's making her way, her way.

We have the opportunity to better ourselves even if our jobs suck. We have the ability to dig ourselves out of debt peonage, it isn't easy but it is possible. I do truly think most things are possible because at one time everything was thought of as impossible. If we have the ability to complain we have the ability to change.
 
#32 ·
Re: Huh?

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But you go to a gym and lift weights. Go figure.

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LOL. Reminds of a line a buddy told me years ago. He was a big, naturally fit/muscular guy and I asked him where he worked out. He answered "Naw, I don't lift weights.......They're way too heavy".

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Mercedes built. 56 mpg. 799cc turbodiesel 3 cylinder.

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But doesn't the VW Jetta or Golf TDi get somewhere in the neighborhood of 55 mpg with a much more peppier engine and in a real car platform?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for vehicle manufacturers embracing diesel technology, and wish more of them sold in North America had a diesel engine option. But it seems to me that the Mercedes SmartCar should get better mileage than what they claim.

Another thing to consider (and I don't know if this is the case in the US, but it is locally) is that diesel is cheaper than regular unleaded gasoline. It's often around 12cents/litre cheaper when I fill up my diesel daily-driver. so not only can you go further on a tank of fuel, but that tank costs significantly less to fill.
 
#33 ·
Re: Huh?

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diesel is cheaper than regular unleaded gasoline.

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wanna take bets on how fast that changes if diesel becomes popular?

Kinda like FISH. 25 years ago fish was like a third class alternative to beef so it was really cheap at the grocery store. Then suddenly fish became a healthy food, full of magical nutrients and omega3 fatty acids or some such thing. The price of fish started to climb steadily until now the seafood counter at the grocery store is about the most expensive place to stand.

I have very little personal experience with diesels except about 20 years ago when I worked for Genital Motors in the parts dept of a chevy dealer. Part of my duties were to deliver parts to garages and shops. We had the usual fleet of current year Silverado PUs , an S10 that everyone hated to drive and this incredibly funky old Chevy LUV truck with totally oxidized red paint and an Isuzu (I think) diesel motor that had about 900 zilllion miles on it. The thing would reliably clatter to life every time you cranked it up and you basically floored it from the time you shifted into 1st until the tme you stopped. Everyone flogged it mercilessly and it still kept right on going without a hiccup. THAT is the kind of motor I would like to have in a sami-sized offroader.

~daxe
 
#34 ·
Re: Huh?

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wanna take bets on how fast that changes if diesel becomes popular?

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That's a very good point Daxe.

I'm no expert and I have never studied or compared the numbers but if you consider that almost all transport rigs throughout the continent, as well as trains and buses (although they are quickly converting to alternative fuels for commuter buses) use diesel, couldn't we assume that the numbers might already be comparitively close in today's world?
 
#35 ·
Re: Huh?

I just filled up today and diesel was 12 cents more expensive than regular unleaded. Price gouging big time. think about it, diesel has to be refined less, but costs more.
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I guess the rigs use more, so the refineries can get more money to line their pockets. Just my uninformed hypothesis....
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#36 ·
Re: Huh?

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I just filled up today and diesel was 12 cents more expensive than regular unleaded.

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Interesting. I guess maybe some regions charge more for diesel than gasoline already.

Anyone else across Canada compared the cost of the two fuels at the pumps lately?

What about some other regions of the US other than the North-East states?
 
#37 ·
Re: Huh?

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I'm no expert and I have never studied or compared the numbers but if you consider that almost all transport rigs throughout the continent, as well as trains and buses (although they are quickly converting to alternative fuels for commuter buses) use diesel, couldn't we assume that the numbers might already be comparitively close in today's world?

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also a good observation, but I think that commercial use plays differently on prices than the consumer market. I'm no economist, either, but I know supply and demand has a lot of corrolaries. The commercial market is kind of a fixed and predictable demand, there's going to be a balance between accepted levels of profit for the refineries and acceptable pricing for the customers. It's not like the trains and big rigs have a choice, really. However in the consumer market where there IS a choice, I think demand would make the price go up to capitalize on the trend.

That is all *total* speculation. I know a little about economic theory but defer to anyone with even a shred of real knowledge on the topic.

~daxe
 
#39 ·
Re: Huh?

Gas here 1.98 diesel is 2.05, I was thinking of the VW diesel cov but since im not anywhere close to being a diesel mechanic and I saw the price of diesel goin up i decided not to. If I blow my motor ill just replace it with a Briggs and Straton DOHC electric start!
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#40 ·
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But if a diesel gets way better mileage then it can be more expensive and still be a bargain.......right? TRASHCAN"S fuel is about 3% more expensive, seems like most diesel mileage claims are at least 30% better....

This isn't really about mileage anyway for most of us...it's about the killer diesel torque.
 
#43 ·
Re: whats so hard about throwing papers?

Is there a way to view this page differently? Due to caspers unabridged link, I have to scroll back and forth to read the thread, and once I hit his I was tired of reading.

Casper, how about shortening that thing up a bit, or just using a different HTML to shorten it.
 
#46 ·
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I tried to find a shorter link to the data, but I couldn't... it prolly a setting with your browser... I also tried to cut and paste the data, but the formatting is knackered....
 
#48 ·
Re: whats so hard about throwing papers?

casper..when you put in the link by clicking the the URL button on the posting form it pops up a window asking you for the link. Then it pops up a window asking you for the title of the link. If you type something else in that second popup, then it will only be listed as the title, not the whole URL. it's the equivalent of the HTML tag:

Huppo

instead of

http://www.huppo.com

it wraps properly in MSIE, also.

~daxe