Ok, I don't want to be rude or anything, but please, do you think that i'm that much of an idiot? I mean really, when I said that its a manual xfer case, to a manual tnsmsn I ment it. The true reason that I know all about the tell tale signs of a quadratrac system is the fact that I own a quadratrac system Please just answer the questions, I get all excited when I check my email cause I think that someone actually has an answer. I don't mean to be rude, since I've read alot of your posts and they are usually very good. BUt this is not the quadratac transfer case....