[4255]

I am having problem removing my disk break. I don't know how. I removed my wheel and I have no idea what to do next. If I can inspect my breaks and get them working I can finnal take my jeepster out for a spin.

Please Help,
Matthew Yarbrough

Opps,
I ment to say that I am having trouble removing the drum off of my drum breaks on my 1970 jeepster. I apologise for the confusion.

Matthew Yarbrough

 

[dave]

Re: Disk break help

I need a little more information. Does the wheel spin by hand? Maybe the problem is a stuck disc brake caliper, if the wheel will not spin.

Maybe the problem is the wheel will spin by hand, but when someone pushes on the brake pedal, the wheel keeps spinning?
dave

 

[265]

Re: Disk break help

If you don't know what to do after removing the wheel, it's probably best to get a professional to evaluate the brakes. Do it for your own safety and the safety of others on the road.

Chris in Texas

 

[4255]

Re: Disk break help

I complety messed up when I posted last night. I ment to say that I need help removing my drum off of the drum brakes (I was tired and thinking of replacing the pads on my <nobr>car</nobr> which has disk breaks, I apologise). I cannot figure out how it is attaced or how to remove it. There is a plate where bolt/bolts would be holding the drum on. I have never seen this before. The <nobr>jeep</nobr> is a 1970 jeepster fairly stock.

Sorry again,
Matthew Yarbrough

 

[Danger_Dave]

Re: Disk break help

The problem with seeing a professional is you have to get it to a professional - which can be difficult if your problem is "it won't run" or "it won't stop."

My next choice would be to go through my list of local friends/family & see who knows about brakes & get them to come help. Then, once you get it stopping, take it to a professional for a brake inspection (a lot of places offer this as a free service).

My third choice would be to get a good Haynes manual that shows/describes brake systems really well & follow that.

Brake systems aren't that complicated, but the results of messing something up can be bad - at some point, I think I'd have any work I did looked over by someone who knows more about them than I do.

 

[Danger_Dave]

Re: Disk break help

Drum brakes - now that's different.

Do a search. There's lots of good advice on how to get stuck drums off on this website. Everything from "slightly stuck" to "cut it off with a chisel" stuck.

Be prepared to replace everything from the master cylinder to the wheels if they've been sitting too long. Ryan at www.thejeepguy.com will probably have whatever you need.

 

[Pack Rat]

Re: Disk break help

Totally agree with getting someone familiar with brakes to help but especially someone familiar with Jeep brakes. Not that there's a whole lot of difference in the workings of the brakes but how the drums come off differs depending on whether you have 10" or 11" brakes. For whatever reason, the 10" drums are swagged to the studs. The front requires removing the hub/drum as an assembly by removing the drive flange or locking hub assembly then removing the nuts that hold the hub/wheelbearings to the spindle. The rear are similar except you will need a big a$$ puller to get the drum/hub assembly off. A shop manual would be a real good place to start to get an idea of what your getting into. Of course 11" brakes are another story all together. Hope this helps somewhat.

 

[RRich]

Re: Disk break help

The 11" front brakes are also swaged to the hub - or supposed to be. After 30 years the holes get loose, or someone used the wrong studs, or someone enlarged the holes thinking they knew more than the designers. Reason being is to keep the drums centered - concentric with the bearings. Loose, not staked, they'll never go on the same, leading to pulsating pedal, erratic pulling etc.

That's one reason drum brakes get such a bad rap nowdays - everyone forgot how they work! Almost all drum brakes are swaged to the hubs in front.

Put hub in FREE position, remove outer lockout hub, snap ring, inner lockout hub, bend washer edges to free locknut, remove locknut, folding washer, another locknut, then yank it off. The outer bearing will pop out with it.
Keep everything CLEAN!
Reassemble in reverse order. Flatten washer, after locknuts are in place and bearing is adjusted, fold edge of washer over inside locknut, then fold another edge outward over outer locknut. That keeps the wheel from falling off - important!!!!!!

On the rear - IF there's a big nut in the middle you'll most likely need a big puller. Made sure you DO NOT use one that pulls on the outer edge of the drum. Use one that attaches to the studs. Rental yards have them, same as older Chryslers needed. Sometimes you can find them at swap meets too.
Remove the nut, pull it off. Replacing - shove it on, then put in the Woodruff key AFTER it's on, tapered side toward axle. Tighten oiled nut to about 100 ft lbs.

 

[3227]

Re: Disk break help

i just went through a brake job on my 68. you are getting good advice here. i searched under drums and printed out the threads for my mechanic, it helped explain how to pull the drums, especially the rear drums.

 

[4255]

Thanks for the help. I have decided to seek help from a qusi profesional. I will how ever pass along the information from the bbs when I tow the jeep over.
Thanks,
Matthew Yarbrough

 

[RRich]

Good move - watch them, then next time you can do it.
We all have to learn the first time.

Don't ever be embarrassed about asking for help, that's why we are all here.

They say two heads are better than one! (So why couldn't I ever find two headed employees?)