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I recently attended the St. Louis auto show and was told that Jeep will be coming out with a diesel version for liberties in 2004 or 2005. I want to know exactly when they are coming out and if they will be available in the Renagade version. Who can I contact to get more info on this and when will they be available to order and how do you get one on order in preparation for their release?

I like the Liberty and like the idea that they will have an optional diesel with 25% more fuel mileage.

Thank you.
 
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Hi,

I just bought a 2003 KJ with a 2,5 liter CRD (common rail diesel) It is made in the US, but I think it is only available for the european market for now....
Do you know if the KJ has a Track-Lock differential installed in the standard vehicle?
 
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What kind of MPG are you getting. It seems like they are being tight lipped with info about the Diesel. Any extra info that you could provide would be great. Have you had any problems with your Liberty? Thanks
 
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3.7 get 20= mpg hiway empty
15 mpg towing 22 ft boat

diesel rumored at 30mpg. less power than 3.7 but more than 2.5 according to four wheel driv mags.
 
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We have had diesel KJ's in the UK since 2002. I drive a 2.5crd limited manual. It averages about 30mpg (UK gallons). The new 2.8crd auto is already available over here and the book fuel consumption is 27.4mpg (UK gallons). The main advantages of a diesel are the low down torque (max torque is generated at about 2000 rpm) and the excellent fuel consumption figures. They are better off road but noiser and slower on road. However in the UK the price of gas is such that you have to be very rich to run a 3.7 engine. Checkout www.chryslerjeep.co.uk as this gives the bhp, torque and fuel consumption of the 2.8crd auto (remember UK gallons are not the same as US gallons!).

The Jeep Diesel engines are very reliable and are actually a Mercedes unit.
 
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The bit about less power is not strictly correct. If you intent to off road or tow with a vehicle the BHP is not the most important measurement. Torque at low revs is the main indicator of power and potential control of power to the wheels. This is how the engines stack up: 3.7L=208 BHP and Torque 230ft/lbs @ 3800rpm, 2.8CRD=148 BHP and Torque 266ft/lbs @ 1800rpm. This gives the diesel a massive advantage in the amount of power to the wheels (particularly at low revs). This makes it a superior off roading and towing engine. In this case, horse power alone doesn't cut it! However if you just want a quiet, smooth ride (i.e. highway use only) and fuel consumption is not an issue, you would probably be better with the 3.7L engine.
 
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Hi all from Australia. I have a KJ 2.8 CRD Limited and it is sensational. Fuel econonmy todate is 10.7 litres per 100kms (you can work out the mpg). This vehicle goes real hard when run in and it hoses off all the run of the mill 4wd vehicles around here bar the exotics. Towing capicity is awesome. Just a correction re the engine, it is not a mercedes unit (thats in the Grand Cherokee -2.7 litre) it is italian manufactured by VM Motori and developed in consultation with Detroit Diesel.

No problems at all so far but still early days. This model, 2003,
has disks on the rear hence the increased towing capicity.
 

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Ok hate to say this. but here goes.. Im a diehard Toyota fan, and in the toyota forum on here. But i must say been looking for a diesel truck (even considered shipping a diesel from oversaes to home in Canada). But a Diesel Liberty has got me looking hard at what i would of never considered w/o the diesel.... Sellen the p/u and getten a Liberty.

21/22mpg sound fairly good, diesel is still 10-20 cents cheaper a liter here, but how does it fair to city driving? I know the wifes vw diesel, is 1100km hwy and 900km city on a 55L tank, my old I6 jeep got 550L per 70L tank.... and down in the 2-300's for city, quite the difference.

Any other inputs on the diesel, or just the liberty to consider?

Thanks
Arron
 
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I too am a die-hard Toyota fan. With almost 200,000 miles on my 3.0V6 1991 4Runner I'm looking at options. I have considered trying to find a diesel to swap in. I've also considered rebuilding the stock engine. But I want more torque. I run 32BFGM/T's with 4.56 gears and auto tranny and the engine is now too weak to stay in overdrive above 55mph. With the rising cost of fuel, 15mpg doesn't cut it when you drive 100-200 miles a week. What kind of aftermarket support is there for the Liberty? (bumpers, lockers, etc.) Even if I kept the truck mostly stock for now, a doubling of fuel economy would be great while still being able to mildly wheel offroad for camping, surf trips, etc.
 
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I recently bought a 2.5CRD with 5 speed manual transmission; I find the gearbox very noisy, especially when accelerating in 2nd and 5th. Does your Cherokee suffer the same?
 

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Diesel Liberty in 2005,,,$23K -$27K...295 Ftlbs torque.
22/23 city,,,30/32 highway. Available mid 2005...That was the news released from Chrysler last week.
 

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06 Liberty CRD towing brake controller

We have a family purchased new 2006 CRD that my daughter now drives to high school. Her grandfather purchased it new in AZ & it has about 80K on it. It has every option I am aware of except the sun roof which included towing package. However it did not include electric brake controller which was added later. The controller was hard wired in & at some point 2 lights have been showing up on dash for traction control & braking. They cycle in & out for no apparent reason. I have searched & had others search but have not been able to find a direct harness plug in brake controller set up. Does anyone have any info regarding this or the lights on dash. We have scoured the owners manual but does not give much info?
 
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