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O.K. I tried to get a better look at my neighbors wagoneer. It is a wagoneer and it has a 4 wheel drive badge on the back quarter panel. I couldnt get over the fence cause of the dogs but I got out my 10X25 binocs and it looks like the pumpkin is on the drivers side. Couldn't see the back. Any body have any clues? Does the pumpkin location give a clue to vintage? And does that vintage have D44'S front and rear? Thanks.

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I can't swear on this, but I think all of the older Q-tracks and Dana's were on the passenger side...
If it's on the drivers side, the most common would be a new process of one variety or another...

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I guess I am now that you mention it. I just do it when he isnt home.

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teamrush is right. if the diff is on the driver's side (front) than it is a new process part time transfer case.

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Would you be able to take a stab at what the axles might be? D44's or something. I am looking at maybe swapping the whole shootin match into my project. Motor, tranny, t-case, axles....

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/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif 1980 seems to be the year that the big Jeep vehicles went to driver's side drop, since the cases listed are all that configuration. It could be a NP 219 (full Time, no hubs); 208 (would probably HAVE hubs); My guess is a 219....built by new process, and has a 2.61:1 low range. A very complex case, but I'm 90% sure that it does have a center differential, so your Jeepie would be one heck of a snowdriver. This case has NO 2WD if it is the 219.

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So I would be full time four wheel drive? what about installing front hubs? what would that do for me? Everything would still turn but just not engaged and my gas mileage would go down. Right? I am learning as I go, so I am sorry for the newbie questions.

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Not that I'm adding any value here, but...
Why all the clandestine spying on the Wagoneer? Are you going to swap the stuff out when your neighbor isn't home?
Why don't you just go ask what it has or ask to look at it?
Sorry, I just thought that that seemed a little silly...but more fun I guess.

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It is kinda fun but He is never there when I am home. Or we just miss each other. I would just go look but he has two big dogs and they arent real friendly. I was using the binocs to get a closer look is all. I cant get close enough. Plus I got the idea from the PUD guy. He has to use binocs to read his meter cause of the dogs. A little cloak and dagger fun.

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/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif This is just a guess, you understand, but if it is a 219 case like I mentioned, there IS no 2WD....you just match up them tires real good and go fer it! If it is a 219 case, there shoul donly be the Lo-Hi lever, that's all. That case was the modern version of Quadra-Trac.....thank goodness they left out them pesky cone clutches. If you acquire this Jeep and it is a 219, I'll give you the scoop on how to be a good steward of the full-time Jeep transfer case. NO....you don't need a tuxedo and a big cloth napkin on one arm!! You just need common sense./wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif You could: (1) take the guy a beer; (2) buy him a ticket to the Indy 500; (3) invite him over for a BBQ; (4)go over THERE to a BBQ, and sneak a peek inside to see what levers stick up in 6that rascal./wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

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