Can't make this stuff up!

2781 · Nov 22, 2003

Can\'t make this stuff up!

If anybody feels bad about the lack of places to go wheeling locally, check out the only place we have in NJ...

New Jersey ORV Park

I'm not sure which is a bigger joke the $150 a year membership fee, or the "Managers Special - Now thru November 30 2003 day passes will be $50 per person"

So, let me get this straight... If I want to go wheeling in this little sandpit (since trucks and other vehicles aren't allowed in the trails), I can either pay $150 a year plus $35 a day per person, or I can wait for the Managers Special and get a day pass and pay $50 per person?

The state of NJ is marketing this as a legal way to go wheeling, and as a deterant to people wheeling on private lands or state forrests.

I can hear the converstation now. 6 guys sitting around knocking back a few beers, deciding on where to go riding the next day. Rather than wheeling locally for free, they decide to drive 2 hours, pay $450 registration ($150 per vehicle x3), and $210 daily fee ($35 x6), for a grand total of $660 to go wheeling in a little crowded sand pit.

Somebody in Trenton thinks this makes sense?

At least Paragon is only a few hours away.

1438 · Nov 23, 2003

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Sad.

TomKat · Nov 23, 2003

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OMG!!! that is pretty tough. I have an uncle who recently moved from Piscataway NJ to eastern PA (about an hour from Paragon) for reasons similar to yours. And also the impossible TRAFFIC!! Man, I don't miss that crap one bit when visiting him.

2781 · Nov 23, 2003

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North Jersey and South Jersey are almost two completely different states, but unfortunately share the same a$$backwards government.

North Jersey is rocky and hilly (would have made some great wheeling!), but most areas are very densly populated, and land is extremely expensive. It is also filled with a large % of rude New York a-holes who have escaped from the city.

South Jersey is far less populated. No hills, no rocks. Just miles and miles of sand and pine trees. Traffic isn't as bad, people are more laid back. But the wheeling stinks. Other than some really deep mud holes, there are very few places that a stock Samurai wouldn't go.

If this little ORV park was $5 or $10 a day, I might go just to meet people and test stuff out. But I'm not spending that kind of money to ride around in a circle in the sand.

Shrock · Nov 23, 2003

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Looks like 4x4's are and afterthought and they are mainly targeting ATV's and motorcycles.

It is pretty much all private here too...legal anyway, but it is more like $25-30 vehicle and $5 for a passenger.

That sux.

DougO · Nov 23, 2003

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In reply to:

It is also filled with a large % of rude New York a-holes who have escaped from the city.

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Eh-heem

Like your an angel

TomKat · Nov 23, 2003

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In reply to:

It is also filled with a large % of rude New York a-holes who have escaped from the city.

[/ QUOTE ] That's funny because a mile down the road from my uncles new house is a NYC lawyer bigwig who bought 300+ acres and posted all the land around the farmhouse where my uncle used to hunt. He is, however, getting sick of the deer eating all his plants, so he may change his mind soon!

2781 · Nov 24, 2003

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Sorry DougO!

I guess I was feeling a bit salty about New Yorkers at the time. What I meant to say (at the risk of digging myself even deeper)...

It seems that when people are too rude, and too ignorant to stay in NYC, the state kicks them out, and they flock to NJ.

No hard feelings?

1776 · Nov 25, 2003

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Is this "sand pit" run by the state of NJ, or does it belong to a private owner looking to get ritch quick?
If run by the state, what bozo though up the pricing structure. What it tells me is to find some other government land and go wheelin. The traffic and traspess fines you'll pay are prolly cheaper than the entry fee.
At least here in SoCal most of the ORV parks are $5 to 10 per vehicle per day with some of the better parks topping out at $20 to 25.

Guest · Nov 25, 2003

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Where do I sign up? 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

2781 · Nov 25, 2003

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In reply to:

Is this "sand pit" run by the state of NJ, or does it belong to a private owner looking to get ritch quick?

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It's run by the state.

There was a private land owner in Forked River NJ that allowed people to wheel for free. July 4th, Labor Day, Halloween there was a massive 4 wheeler gathering, with quite a mixed crowd. Rumor has it that this is being shut down by the state also. Due to the location of the land, it seems that the state has jurisdiction under the Pinelands Protection Act.

CrowHorse · Nov 25, 2003

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Forked River? Hey, I went to The Tracker School down near there.......

2781 · Nov 25, 2003

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What's Tracker School Crow?

794 · Nov 25, 2003

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Thank god I live on the west coast...LOL.
You guys gotta pay to wheel??? Thats sucks, everything is over priced in Cali, but you can still wheel for free.

Guest · Nov 26, 2003

Trends

It used to be that a lot of "trends" started on the West Coast and migrated east. Now, it seems to have reversed.
The so-called "trend" of grossly overcharging for use of private property it ONLY the tip of the iceberg. It seems that these people and their powerful lobbyists have the "ear" of the US Forest Service and the National Park Service and the BLM. The big buzz word of this trend is called, "privatization." Uh, huh. Which privates?

Anyway, we really, really hate to say this but all us "Western" people better get ready for some "turf warz."
The government is trying to figure ways to place a lot of land that we have enjoyed "forever free" into the hands of private enterprise "contractors" and the price will go exponentially obscene to use it. We personally have been in 44 National Forests in the past 18 months from West Virginia to Illinois to Alabama to Texas to Washington, Oregon, etc. We have seen a "trend" happening here that is a true TSUNAMI of ridiculous-ness. And they are getting away with it because nobody realizes it or knows about it.

One day, everything's fine and dandy. The next day, hey, where's your twenty dollar pass. dude?

Trust us, this is a "major motion picture" coming soon to your neighborhood theater.

J&S

RRich · Nov 26, 2003

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It's the politicians with their hands out.

Where is Lee Harvey Oswald, now that we need him?

Can't make this stuff up!

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