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So, sure I went for the 4" lift by BDS. Man is it stiff. I really don't want
to eat the springs but there is very little articulation with this kit. I've
read some of the posts on buggy springs, 3/4 elliptical and revolvers. How
have these solutions turned out for anyone else? Were these solutions made
for correcting the lack of articulation on YJ's and too stiff CJ suspensions?
I don't want to throw good money after bad, but I could use some advice
before I spend the money on CV drive shaft so I don't have to have it shortened
if I did have to take the springs off and go to something with more flex.

I appreciate any input


Brit
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Have you taken those springs out and broke them in on a trail or two yet? I have the 2" YJ lift and for about the first few thousand miles they were stiff. I was selling my house and moving across country at the time so my chances to play were limited. After hitting a trail or two my springs are pretty comfortable.
Don't ask me about flex though, I'm still trying to decide if it's just media hype or what.....
Just because you can ramp- don't mean you can wheel.

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I'm with FNG. I think this RTI thing is a little overblown. My 86CJ7 ramps at 720, and it sure doesn't stop me from tackling some
very tough trails. I've done the Dusy, the Rubicon, TDS Safari (many times) , Los Coyotes, Johnson Valley, etc. etc. etc.

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No I haven't hit the trails with them at all yet. Only about 300 miles in
town so far. I am pretty surprised how stiff they are. Other rigs I have
ridden in had other brands of 4" lifts and were noticeably stiffer but not
so harsh. I agree articulation isn't everything, I just wonder how these
buggy and 3/4 elliptical setups have held up. The revolver shackles look
like a good thing but I would like to hear from someone who has used them.
Thanks for the input, I do need to get out and break them in.



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Two things a lot of people forget, did you grease your bushings and how tight did you tighten the shackle bolts. Too tight, it will be
VERY stiff.

Brad (from the 4 Wheeling center of the universe, 4 corners USA)
 

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Brad,

Thanks for the reply. I used greasable shackle bolts and bushings on the front
and did grease the bushings on the rear at install. I kinda wondered about
the tension on the bolts since my mechanical guru has some kind of relationship
with his air tools that I don't understand completely yet. They did back off
easily with hand tools so I just have them snug. By the way, am I going to
be infected sooner or later with the "More tools/air tools/can't get enough
tool catalogs" virus? Is there a prognosis for this malady? Will jeepin' and
working on my Jeep keep it under control?/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif

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prognosis

In re: "More tools/air tools/can't get enough
tool catalogs" virus?

Prognosis: Poor. You will be afflicted with this serious disease in stages. At each stage, you will maximize your credit limit. Once the limit is reached, the virus will "plateau" until 4 months have passed of regular payments. You will then advance to the next level of this vicious, man eating virus.

Expectations of advancement/cure: There are 3 cures for this disease:

1. Death
2. Divorce
3. Financial impoverishment

Just thought you should know.

There have been recent studies that show a wife is a good virus-blocking agent.
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Jon-YJ94
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Re: prognosis

Yeah, wives do prevent the virus from going too far. Mine just cannot see the need for the plasma cutter I've been eyeing.

Brad (from the 4 Wheeling center of the universe, 4 corners USA)
 
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Re: prognosis

Just remember that although the Revolver shackles and buggy springs will give you more articulation, they will do nothing to soften the ride. If you are concerned with how stiff they are, the only way to fix that is with a different spring.
 
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Re: prognosis

Gentlemen, I can relate. One of the problems with lifts is that in order to get the jeep up, the springs have to have more arch and have to be stiffer.....end result?....ask your kidneys....

A buddy of mine has the National Spring 3" lift which is the same height as mine and it rides a LOT better...the only difference is the number of leafs...Mine has 3 in the rear while his has 7. In addition he is running RS-9000 shocks. I recently re-built my spring packs and installed teflon pads between the leafs which made a difference. However, I found one of my major problems to be my gas charged shocks. Before I put them back on I took it for a spin....spungy...but nice. I put them on and it was stiff...better than before...but still stiff. As soon as I have the bucks I'm installing RS-9000's.

Also note that I made some mods to my fixed spring holder by adding zert fittings...I'll send photos as soon as I get back home.

The latest issue of Petterson's off road has a good article regarding articulation...as most will most likely agree...its not that big of an issue....lockers and ground clearance matter more.

John......southern CA
84CJ7,3"lift,32"BFG,4.11's,ARB,Solid Axle's
 
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