That's one advantage of a law enforcement job, they will usually excuse you because if the cop made the arrest, then the defendant must be guilty. Doesn't work for civil stuff, though!

Brad
ORC Land Use Section Editor
http://www.off-road.com/land

 

I look at it as an opportunity to right the wrongs. I would have loved to have been on the jury that awarded $3,000,000 to a woman that spilled coffee on herself. What a joke.

I was on a Superior court jury a couple of years ago, and haven't been called back since. I guess I have been deleted from the data bank. They did not like our verdict. I guess they are going to have to find some other sheeple to get the results they want.

CJ-8, CJ-6, Cherokee

 

If you don't want to end up on the Jury, just act nuts during the screening process. Talk to people who aren't there and randomly screem "guilty! guilty! guilty!"...or just do what my friend did and tell them off because "I don't like any lawyers and your a lawyer right, you lying..."

My Jeep is just a leaky submarine in disquise

 

Jury duty is a pretty flimsy excuse for not voting...
I'll bet everyone of those so called 'friends' of yours b*tch to high heaven about who got elected, but still won't vote...
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I've been registered to vote for over 20 years, and I've only been called once for jury duty.
They had felony battery (big fist fight) charges against a out of town guy.
Seems that two local guys, one the son of a local town trustee and his friend got drunk and decided to put their hands on one of the local women.
The guy from out of town stepped in, and the two local guys jumped him.
They all three got beat up pretty bad, but the local guys cried and whined to daddy, and got charges brought against the out of town guy.

We of the jury decided that two counts of 'B' class felony was a bit much.
We found him guilty standing up for a pair of women he didn't even know, and innocent of any criminal charges.
(I hope he's around if someone lays hands on my female family members)

The prosecution wanted to give the guy 80 years for the 6 stitches and a broken nose he inflicted.
He took three stitches and had his back sprang ed.
He had already been in the county jail for almost a year on the charges, the locals set a $80,000 bail, cash only, and he couldn't raise it.
The Judge and prosecutor were both real mad, and the father of one of the locals swore he'd get all of us in '83...
I'm still waiting...

The judge called it 'Jury Nullification'...
(fancy words for not doing just what they wanted us to)
They polled the jury, and we were unanimous.
It was actually quite a learning experience, and a small price to pay for living in a free country and having the right to jury trial...

Don't you want a trial of your peers, instead of the cigarette smoking welfare trash that can't muster enough I.Q. points to get out of it?...
Think about that for a minute...

"I Have The Body Of A God... Buddha"

 

Not registiring to vote doesn't work in Cal. They also use your drivers license.

Gary

 

/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif I'm 100% with TeamRush on this one. There for a while I got called every time the courthouse door opened, and finally had to get on the Jury Commissioner's butt to quit calling me. I did, however, make darn sure that justice was done, and once had to be stubborn on a DUI case where the defense was impugning the accuracy of the breathalyzer because their client was a hopeless repeat DUI offender. They ALMOST got the jury to buy that B.S....that is they called into question: "Do you trust machines?" Some jurors were reluctant to "trust" machines till I asked them if they inspected their brakes that morning or did they go headlong into the first stop sign and then cram on the brakes...KNOWING and TRUSTING that the system would work? That ended that arguement finally. If I'm ever on trial, I want a jury of my peers; not welfare rats, or people with nothing better to do. I also want to have people who can still THINK, not mush-brained media-trained Klintun-excusing robots./wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
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my personal favorite jury duty summons came when i was living in a tent in Italy on a flightline....I sent it back.. all filled out. including "distance to courthouse, round trip.....7200 miles" they didn't get back with me...

~~Elusive~~
it's sort of still a cj thingy....see it at http://www.jeepgod.net

 

/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif That does it!/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gifNow I'll never get any work out of these moonguys/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif They won't stop laughing/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.giffor hours./wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif

CJDave
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Team Rush,
I could have used your Jury back in 82. I was 22 years old and had just recently left the Navy. I had went into a bar in Van Nuys Ca. to shoot some pool and after taking a guy for $10 in a game he refused to pay, then decided he wanted me to pay. After taking his and his brothers crap(both drunk out of their minds) for about 10 minutes I tried to leave, and they both followed me into the parking lot. Now, Ive been a boxer since I was 8 years old(golden gloves, silver gloves,Boys club, Navy and 4 pro fights) and I was still sober, but these two guys were planning on rolling me and were having a great time leading up to thier well deserved but kicking. When the Police got there I was finishing up something their dad should have taught em long before, so I went to Jail. There well connected father, instead of thanking me for something he should have done a long time ago, ended up orchestrating a "mean boxer beat up my poor children scenario" and I went to LA county Jail for 120 days. Thats been my only run in with the law, Fortunately the Judges back then had a little more latitude in there control over there court and talked the DA into considering a had served in the Navy, was going to college and had a good job, so only misdemeanor charges were filed. But still those two big brothers acting like they had been bullied, while on the stand was sickening. One of the brothers ended up stabbing someone to death in LA after he dropped out of UCLA, and was sent to San Quentin. The other brother became a Lawyer, go figure.

Jeff
89 Wrangler
If at first you dont succeed, your replacement will try and try again.

 

I've only been called once (in CT they also use DMV records). As I was self employed, it would've financially kiiled me at jury pay of $50/day, so I got off.

-Dana

I only drink to make other people more interesting.

 

/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif Dana....I've been self-employed most of my working life, but felt it was my responsibility to bring some common sense to a jury. What I would do is negotiate the jury commissioner into leting me serve during the peak rainy season when there was no way we could even get off the pavement and do any work. They'll do that in order to accommodate a juror./wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

CJDave
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Welp.. personally I've never gotten called for jury duty, but I'm really looking forward to it some day. To get to see the wheels of justice turn in person, to fulfill my responsibilites as an American citizen and to see to it that someone is available for my jury (if ever!) if I'm ever prosecuted for something.

I don't think that jury duty is an acceptable excuse for not registering to vote. Just your one vote is so much more important than sitting in a jury. If it means you have to sit, then so be it. Otherwise you'll be putting up with elected officials that don't stand for what you do, and you'll have no one to blame for it but yourself. Personally, I'd rather get paid $50.00 a day for jury duty than get taxed out the whazoo by some bureacrat that I didn't take the time to vote against.

Just my nickel.

Carl, Tampa, FL, 74 CJ-5
If a Jeep can't take you there, Think twice about going..

 

Doesn't apply if you're self-employed, but doesn't your employer have to pay you if you get called? Mine did.

BTW, my experience was kind of comical. I didn't realize what was going on at the time, but before they brought us in, they had some prelims going on in the courtroom. They called out this gal's name. And again, and again, and then loud enough that I could hear it from where I was. I don't want to reveal my prior connection to this gal..............let's just say that I would have been able to identify her "natural" hair color./wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif Luckily, that wasn't the trial I was to hear/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif.

TEX

/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif Got Mud?
G.U.M.B.O. Mud Racing

 

Yeah, mine will give me a full days pay when I fork over the $5 court allowance. At least I won't have to take a 97% pay cut for the day. I haven't been called yet either, but honestly look forward to the day I am, there's too much dishonesty in the world. Up here they also use the DMV license, and it is imperative you vote, so please register.

JEEPN
'81 CJ-8 Scrambled!
GM151/SM465/NP205 twinstick/7"Lift/33"TSL's/IHC D44's 4.10's Lock'd

 

Lets face it, 99% of the trash that goes through the legal system deserves to get life for stupidity, but I just happened to be in the line when a 'REAL' case came along...
I almost got stuck on a child molesting case where the guy video taped himself having sex with a 16 month old baby...
I think the court would have been the least of his problems...
His claim was that child abuse made him molest 35 years later...

KILL THE BASTARD AND GET IT OVER WITH!!
What will some dip sh*t lawyer come up with next...

"I Have The Body Of A God... Buddha"

 

CJDave, I wanted to serve on the jury, but financially I was on the hairy edge and my family would have suffered, especially if it lasted for any length of time. I also had deadlines that I wouldn't have been able to meet. When the attorney for the plaintiff (it was a really dumb civil case) questioned me, upon hearing I was self employed, he asked if it'd cause financial hardship. I truthfully answered, "yes". When asked if worrying about that would distract me from the case, I again had to truthfully answer "yes". I was then excused, with my jury obligation fulfilled for the next 5 years (or whatever). I've been told that plaintiff's and defense lawyers usually don't like engineers (I'm one) on the jury, they're too objective and "not sympathetic enough".

-Dana

Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

 

im with you TR.. but if you want out of jury duty.. join the military.. every i have been asked to go.. i too have been half a world away.. and if i got these while in conus i would love to go.. but they would throw me out.. since i am military.. must be to knot-headed, in-your-face, commie-b*stard hating of a marine to do any civil good.. /wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif.. if they only knew..

survival is instinct, but living takes guts

http://www.jeepgod.net

 

/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif I reed you, Dana...and I too have been thar n' done that, and a lot of times it WAS out of the question because I had eight guys to line out with work and DO THE THINKING for some of them, NOT TO MENTION THE NEED TO GENERATE BILLING EVERY DAY. You're right about engineers, lawyers don't want any on the jury; too likely to see through the bulls8it!/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif

CJDave
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Interesting thread, here. I'd be happy to serve, but I've only been called twice and excused both times due to knowing too many of the principals (attorneys and cops on the cases).

These days attorneys have specialists help them choose jurors likely to swing their way.

I'd want somebody who could think and somebody with some independence on any jury considering charges against me. Which hasn't happened yet, thank God! You guys would all be welcome.

I think it's important to be a registered voter and to vote. Butin my opinion its sheer bull$hit to make it super easy for every idiot to vote; lots of them are too ignorant to make any kind of rational decision. Let's at least keep it so you have to have enough committment to drive to the polls.

Bone stock '81 CJ7,'96 ZJ.
"Will Rogers never met Bill Clinton."

 

I can see a jury of BBS users now...

45-Auto beats the snot out of some auto jerks clerk for asking if his CJ is 4 wheel drive for the fifth time...

NOT GUILTY!!
The twit behind the counter should have been the one up on charges...
He's late to the trial because his Geo Tracker (that he calls a 'Jeep') wouldn't start... again...

It would be nice to be tried by a jury of your peers...
That's not usually how it happens...

"I Have The Body Of A God... Buddha"

 

/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif OR.....JEEPN gets into a rowl with someone outside a convenience store when he asks a simple question about guy's custom rims, and the guy INSISTS that his 2WD Cherokee has "All Wheel Drive"..........Someone on this BBS actually ran into a guy who had a 2WD "All Wheel Drive" Cherokee)......The guy blows up at JEEPN and JN gets hauled off for "aggravated verbal assualt". Not long ago I was over on the FS 4X4 pickup page, and posted a response which some reader totally misundestood because it was over his head, so the guy posts to the thread and stupidly ran down the whole idea. When that happens, I sometimes use the response: "There's no point in me trying to [challenge] [fool] [out-engineer](you select the word that fits) an 'EXPERT' like you!" So MANY experts, so few good ideas./wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif That post by TR was a panic......my mooncrew is STILL laughing!/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif

CJDave
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Now Dave, I never get physical (or emotional), I let the 9mm do it for me. At least that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

How true TR, how true. Often I've thought of becoming gay, wearing a dress, and driving a lowered XJ (2WD of course) just so things will go my way once and a while. Wouldn't life be grand if it worked for normal people the way it does for "others"?

JEEPN
'81 CJ-8 Scrambled!
GM151/SM465/NP205 twinstick/7"Lift/33"TSL's/IHC D44's 4.10's Lock'd

 

I have been registered to vote for 17 years now and have been called to jury duty 5 times. All of the cases settled and I never had to actually serve. I was looking forward to the experience and was sort of let down. It isn't often you get to do your duty as an American citizen.
Maybe next time.
Mizu

 

All ya got to do is when the defendants mouth piece ask if you have any opinons just tell him that you think his client is guilty or the cop wouldn't have arrested him

 

TeamRush is right: a jury of our real, true peers is no doubt way out of the realm of possibility.

Still, TR's scenario about beating the ignorant parts guy reminded me of something a cop friend once said when I asked him if an encounter he'd had was violent: "There was blood and snot on all the walls after it was over."

Bone stock '81 CJ7,'96 ZJ.
"Will Rogers never met Bill Clinton."