I don't have a ARB bumper but as I see, the ARB bumper is fitted onto the end of the ladder frame and does not use the two side tube that holds the stock
bumper. So, if you get the ARB bumpers, you can cut off the tubes.

Let me know if I am wrong.


JKing
Suzuki Samurai (known as Jimny SJ413 in Asia)
K&N Air Filter, Shackle Lift, Larger Than Stock Tires, 1" Wheel Spacers, Driving & Spot Lamps, Tokico Shocks
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

 

the ARB is one sweet bumper, the only drawback is price. But if you are going to spend 250 -300 for a decent bumper then the arb isnt that much more . There are four mounts, two that slide then bolt into the ends of your frame and the two brackets that bolt to the ends of tubes from the original bumper these can cut off or better yet used to help strenghten the bumper wich can be held solidly using the frame mounts,. p.s dont get caught wishing you had spent that exra $150 good luck

were not here for a long time were here for a good time

 

The ARB bumpers mount to the frame ends and the stock bumper frame "ears". you can cut off your stock bumper mounts then cut the brackets off the ARB bumper. If you do this you SHOULD re-enforce the frame ends to support a winch.
Bill--

Bill Forrest!!...........Off-road champion.
http://www.geocities.com/zukybill/index.html

 

On our ARB bumpers, we just mount them to the frame. Cut the wings off for the stock mounts and you'll really open up your front wheel well for larger tires. The frame holds up fine though. We've winched ourselves up Surprise Canyon a few times hanging on that ARB bumper. Its the very best one on the market!

http://www.rocky-road.com

 

Thanks for all the replies. One follow up question though, how is the weight on these compared to the other bumpers. The look kind of hefty, which is a good thing as long as it isn't overkill on a stock engine. What kind of total weight am I looking at with say the ARB and a 6000lb - 8000lb winch on board?

Thanks again

 

Ronin,

i am doing a mobile-winch-bumper setup (f. and r.) as we speak.

My garage (call them my best friends) are doing this with 4x2" square-tubing (1/8" wall-thickness). They will be able to maintain the stock-look, in other words they will put the "coke-can" bumper over this setup - so no messy light-relocation worries,etc...

I will post piccies this weekend... the grand total (material, work,incl. wiring trough the frame rails, etc... is us$220,-(that's in chile, though))

this setup permits to run w/o winch, put the winch on the front bumper or on the rear.

advice me if you'd like more info... they should be done tomorrow

alfred

'95 Stofttop, K&N, Snorkel, 4,5" SPOA, 31" BFG MT, 4,16gears, W5000 winch, skidplate, rear Rancho 9000 - other than that its bone-stock

 

If you are considering the ARB, you might also want to look at the new Calmini C3 bumper. http://www.calmini.com/samtube.htm

Yankee Tim/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif

 

Yes, I did consider the C2 and C3 bumpers from calmini. They look nice too. I think I like the C2 one the best of those. I still have that one in mind as a choice. I think the thing I like about the ARB is the full frontal coverage. It is still a tough chioce though. I could always buy another samurai and get one of each bumper i guess

BTW, Yankee Tim, I still need to get you the measurements for those Suzuki Light guards for the Samurai. They got stuck in a box and tucked away in a dark corner of my closet while I was waiting to get my rig painted. I got em back out the other day, so I'll try to get you the measurements soon.

 

Hey thanks. We were gonna scrap the idea as we would need to o everything from scratch. With the measurements, it would be possible again.

Yankee Tim/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif

 

The ARB bumper itself weighs 73 lbs. Whatever winch you put on will be added to that.

On a side note, we saw a guy on our Kane Creek trail last year during Zukfari fold a crease down the middle of his C2 bumper. Wasn't quite as bombproof as he was lead to believe. He was quite bummed out.

http://www.rocky-road.com

 

I really like the newest C3 being offered by Calmini - looks really nice, but I cannot offer any feedback on it's strength or durability. I am running the front Crawler from RRO - which is a different look all together but costs less than the Calmini and ARB bumpers and this thing is pretty damn stout and weighs in at 36 lbs (according to the UPS bill).

pug

 

C'mon Glenn, grow up you little child.

 

"Bombproof" bumpers is a trademark of another manufacturer, not Calmini. Calmini never claimed it was "bombproof", unless you can show me otherwise.

And all the claims of "bulletproof" and "bombproof" are marketing gags. Even I call stuff bulletproof, but yet I have a few hundred rounds of .223 SS109 "Green Tips", which burn thru 1/4" plate steel like a hot knife thru butter. It's a figure of speech.

Nothing is truly bullet or bombproof, and anyone who thinks it is, I have a bridge here in Brooklyn you might want to buy./wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif

Yankee Tim/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif

 

Hey Tim,

Got a picture of that bridge in Brooklyn you're selling and can you provide me with a bill of sale?

P

 

I'll provide it to the highest bidder. Promise./wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif

Yankee Tim/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif

 

put it on Ebay...I bet you get bids!

 

Oh no.......here we go again - I will design and manufacture a bumper out of the metal that they make the black box (communications recordings) for commercial airlines......That will be bombproof!!! LOL

pug

 

Here is a side picture of how the ARB mounts. Picture is from Lav25's rig.

Tim Martin
87' Samurai, 5.5" SPOA, 2" longer shackles, Modified CJ-5/Samurai springs, 31x10.5-15's, Hi-lift jack, and a crapped out 1.3L engine.

 

I don't think I would go with the C3 because where would you put the Hi-lift to jack it up. Looks like the hi-lift would slide right out with that angle they put into it.

88.5 Samurai "DONT LAF",6" of SPOA lift,4.16 TC
http://www.topcities.com/sports/lziffle73

 

Have ya checked out the Wheelers Off-Road front bumpers http://www.wheelersoffroad.com I think the ARB is a nice bumper but not as good as the Wheelers bumpers, IMOP! The ARB looks like it is too thin and cheep. For the money you would spend on a ARB you can get a Wheelers winch mount bumper and might have some leftover cash to get a winch. I had mine custom made to fit my 3" body lift and it is only 75lbs! I like that it has a spot for a licence plate because in Ohio you have to have a front plate. I have the winch mount on it and still need a winch to fill in the void space. hare is a pic for ya, you've might have seen it before. It also mounts to the frame and not the old bumper mounts! Very beefy!

Brian /wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif THE ULTIMATE ZUK
http://www.geocities.com/brianconrad1/

 

Well, everyone has their own opinion of the ARB bumper and others that are available. My ARB has survived a roll, slamming into trees, winching out numerous Heaps, and has come away with only scratches and some gouges. The bumper was designed to mount in 4 places...the old mounts where the stock bumper goes and two holes that are already in the frame from the tow points. If you run larger tires and cut the front mounting points off like most of us do, the bumper still mounts to the frame nicely, and with a few added welds you can reinforce the frame to allow more strength.

The bumper is a heavier gauge steel than the ZUK frame.
So the choice boils down to the depth of your wallet..

Now if I can get free one for the ARB plug, it would be nice 8^}

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