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I've read good things about the 2.8 V6 Ford swap. Has anyone done it with a 4sp auto? I would like the OD for highway driving. I can see the problem with tranny length in a SWB, but is should be okay in a LWB, yes? Is the Ford 4sp computer controlled and is this a problem?

I was thinking of a carbed V6, as this would be easiest swap in. How are the carbs offroad?

What kind of cruise rpm on the highway are you guys running with the 2.8/C4 setup? MPG?

TIA

 

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I've read good things about the 2.8 V6 Ford swap

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The Ford 2.9 is a very stout motor IMO, I've had many friends with bronco 2's and rangers and they seem to hold up very well.

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Has anyone done it with a 4sp auto?

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Not sure, the only trannies that are running of my head are the 4L60Es etc.. and those are computer controlled...

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I was thinking of a carbed V6, as this would be easiest swap in.

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I can respect that, I ditched a TBI setup on my current motor to run carb, but dont understand why you would be willing to wire in a tranny, but not a motor..remmember the KISS method. A well tuned 2.9 carbed motor with a C4 planted behind it would be a good power upgrade for a samurai, and a well tuned carb will perform just fine if you ask me. One thing to consider is what I mistakenly had to learn, every ford transfer case is driver side output, so unless you decide to use the stock setup ( might not be a good idea), you mine as well start studying advanced adaptors catalog.

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I can see the problem with tranny length in a SWB, but is should be okay in a LWB, yes?

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Surely, you have around 13 more inches (I believe) to work with, the more the merrier.

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What kind of cruise rpm on the highway are you guys running with the 2.8/C4 setup? MPG?

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Ok not to be rude, but I've done many swaps into zuks, and one thing I've came to notice that it takes a good investment and bone solid install to make a swap truck a good street truck, big bird is still not something to just jump into and ride up to the quickie mart for groceries. One thing to remmember about a swap is that your always gonna have bugs to work out afterwards, sometimes more sometimes less, so if your basing this truck around a daily driver, beware. As far as MPG's, block that out, depending on tire size gearing etc...your not gonna like that, but thats no reason to resist a swap. RPMs? again matters on tire size and gearing.

 

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One more thing, fill out your information, ie: where you live etc..Makes it more user friendly for us to respond, you never know if you live close to one of us and get a helping hand

 

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All good points. Thanks for the reply. You are right about upgraded engine swaps - more power (the number one reason), less mpg (unless going diesel) and there are bugs to work out.

I have swapped engines in other vehicles before, mostly upgrading from small blocks to big blocks. These have been straight forward, with good power gains, and only a lose of mpg in most cases.

Perhaps I should rethink my strategy and put a 1.6 16v into my daily driver and do a bigger V6 or small V8 swap for a trail machine with 35's (but keeping it road legal so I can drive to the trails).

Maybe I'll go GM 4.3 or even a 305 V8 w/700r4. THe OD will make it good for highway jaunts. Hmmmm, then I'll need to go with Toy cases probably if I go with that much power.
Then I need the 700r4 to Toy tc adapter. Anyone ever put a NP208 into a Sammy? Just wondering if it will fit between the frame rails. It's got a long tail on it though and slip yoke .

I'll fill out my profile soon. I was in a rush and just forgot to do it when registering.

Thanks again
Any input appreciated.
Lebowski

 

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Perhaps I should rethink my strategy and put a 1.6 16v into my daily driver and do a bigger V6 or small V8 swap for a trail machine with 35's (but keeping it road legal so I can drive to the trails).

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10 bucks says if the biggest tire your considering is a 35 you'll put that 16v in there and be happy enough, I had a 16v pulling big bird around before I went v8 power, totted 38.5*14.5 SX's around with stock gearing and wheeled like a mofo. Went to V8 cause I was tired of having to 4lo everywhere ( need higher gearing for mud..), but I bet 35's would kick ass even with stock gearing and a 16v powerplant.

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Maybe I'll go GM 4.3 or even a 305 V8 w/700r4. THe OD will make it good for highway jaunts. Hmmmm, then I'll need to go with Toy cases probably if I go with that much power.
Then I need the 700r4 to Toy tc adapter. Anyone ever put a NP208 into a Sammy? Just wondering if it will fit between the frame rails. It's got a long tail on it though and slip yoke .

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4.3 idea sounds good, I had a 305 bored/stroked to 327 in a teal green samurai I had, I liked it but considering all chebbie smallblocks are the same I wish I would have went with a 350, just something to consider. 700R4 isnt a bad idea, steve just made us aware that jeep D300 t cases bolt up right behind them only needed a modified rear output shaft to match the splines.

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Anyone ever put a NP208 into a Sammy?

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I had a mated Np203 to my 327 zuk, fit just fine..see no reason why the 208 wouldnt fit...

 

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I have a 2.8/c4/stock tcase in my samurai. It is a trail only rig though. The swap isn't hard, but it has taken time to get things adjusted just right.

If it is a daily driver, do yourself a favor and just go with a 1.6 16v.

If you really want to do the v6 and have an overdrive, i would look into the ford 4.0 with the overdrive from an explorer or maybe ranger(not sure). I doubt the overdrive would work with the carborated 2.8. the 4.0 is a newer better version of the 2.8.

 

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i highly doubt a NP208 will fit.....the NP208 is a HUGE case....

Its not so much length as width. That case is over 18" wide....they wont fit between the frame rails on an Early Bronco so i KNOW i wont fit under a samurai with out hanging down super far...you best bet would be to use a Ranger unit with a married t-case. but the drop is on the wrong side for a zuk. ford transmissions are notoriously long. I looked into it hard when i was going to drop in a low mile 2.3L EFI from an 89 mustang. about yourr only options for a manual is an NP435 with a custom machined bellhousing....auto your best bet would be what zukibrother did and use a short tailshaft C4 from an old ford van.

J