Ok just a heads up i have a 4:16 case that I ran for 6 tail runs,it is the only time this thing saw anytime. Since the rat has been tore down for the past yr. It has sat on the shelf collecting dust, I will be tearing it apart for gear inspection. and then putting it out to pasture LOL when it it goes out $450. for the hole case +sh. If you are interested let me know. Line starts here