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post #1 of (permalink) Old 08-27-2001, 03:02 PM Thread Starter
 
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To Toy or not to Toy??

Should I do it?? Should I go to Toyota axles?? I want to run 33" tires and I'm afraid I'll be blowin' stock axles. How many of you guys run toy axles? Is it worth the swap? I figure it would cost as much to swap in toy axles as to rebuilding stock axles....am I right? I'm at a crossroad here, this rig is not a daily driver,but it is drivin' to the trails 200 to 300 miles....What do you think? Should I or Not??????

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Re: To Toy or not to Toy??

If you rockcrawl and push the truck hard you will break axles. There are things you can do to try to stave off the
impeding breakage but they will still break. Either go toyota or dana if you want to run it hard. After breaking 2 axles this year (1 front, 1 rear) and most of a rear carrier
I have had it with the zook axles. Hello Dana axles this winter. The zook ones are fine to 31" tires above that you will start putting a ton of stress on them.

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Re: To Toy or not to Toy??

hey man, i agree with wild weasel for the most part. you will end up breaking something eventually. ive been lucky till up to today, no problems yet accept for a rear pinion bearing, but that was mostly caused by power braking my trap with 33s on the black top. if you dont wheel hard, and have a lite foot, 33s will be fine for a long time, but like the weasel said, if you push it, you WILL break something.
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Re: To Toy or not to Toy??

Oh no, you've decided to convert? I guess everyone is going back on their original plans after the trip to the Rubicon.

I just put my spring over on this past weekend. Now I just need my new rear driveshaft (Asian Auto Parts CV shaft). I also need to figure out if my tcase mounts are off a little bit because I'm now getting vibration from the front shaft after the spring over.

Those large 31's I have now look small though. I ended up gaining 5 inches front and rear from it.

The reason that I have no current plans for lockers and diff gears is because I don't know if I will swap out the axles or not. If I swap them out, I will be definately be going to 33's.


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yeah, you should definitely do the swap. I am doin the toy axle swap right now and it shouldn't be too hard and the results will be awesome. I'm gonna be runnin 35's and not worried the slightest of breaking much, except for maybe the birfields, which you can upgrade to a stronger one for more$. I have a couple friends with toyotas and 36 swampers and the beat the hell out of their [censored] and havent seen one broken drivetrain component yet. Its some beefy [censored] man, do the swap! My 2 cents

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My buddy Jeff is running custom cut Toyota axles with 35 and no probs
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Re: To Toy or not to Toy??

Hey Mark,
Yea I thought about setting up a set of zuk axles and for the same amount of $$$ I'm looking into Toys. I just have to get more info on installing them before I decide. I don't want to buy a set of axles and then spend $$$$ to put them under my rig. I want to leave the stock 4.11 gears and just add lockers for starters. It can't be much worse than my 3.73's and 31" tires!! Send me a pic of your SOA, I'd love to see it!

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Crawling out from under my rock again....

Take a little visit to the pirate4x4.com suzuki bbs. There have been several threads recently, regarding various axle swap options, including toy minitruck/hilux and landcruiser. Tons of good info and stuff...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb...?ubb=forum&f=7



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toy axles are good but the wagoneer dana 44's are better in my opinion. wider, stronger, and easier to find. plus the rear is off set like the samurai. just my op.

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i think you should definately do the swap. i saved a ton of money putting toy axles in my rig. they are spoa from the factory, so i got a 5.5" lift. bought the toyota for 200 bux and sold the parts i didn't want off it and got my money back. they have bigger brakes, bigger axles, and lower gears (438's) for the 35's. thats alot of money in upgrading the stock zuk axles to be equivilant. the swap is easy. front springs bolt on, YJ's on mines. i think the zuk ones will too though. rear ones gotta move the perches out. good luck..... Jim.

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