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post #1 of (permalink) Old 08-03-2001, 07:40 PM
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i,m sitting here watching autoweek,and they stated to watch for the new tracker/vitara platform slated for 2004 that will be front wheel drive,the show stated that the companys are trying to get away from the (cute-ute)offroad mobility to a more car like ride.......no mention if all wheel drive will still be an option.......i guess this is one of those cases where if you have something that works.. ruin it .
sorry i'm just in shock and have to vent.
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post #2 of (permalink) Old 08-03-2001, 09:57 PM
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I think GM wants everything front wheel drive .. reason they killed the F body and are closing the plant, but the name is going to come back in 04 some say as a front wheel drive car .. and since GM hold a large share of suzuki I believe they are convincing them to most likely do this .. GM does suck now for cars.

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GMC= Governmen Made Crap!!!! We need to act now to show our discust with the idea....we can stop GM, and we shall.

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Well, what do I say? F**K 'em, they won't touch my Zuki, I own it. Let them have their front wheel drive POS. As long as I can build a new Zuki when I roll this one, let the hosuewives and college co-eds buy all the front wheel drive GM's and Suzukis they want. That will keep them outta the real SUV's which will prolly lower our insurance because they'll be crashing those instead of the Sams and Jeeps.

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I heard that GM was going to bring out a new Impala SS and Bonneville STI. But this time they will be AWD. I'm up for that! A FWD Impala SS is an abomination after all...

GM is probably putting the screws to Suzuki. GM wants to bring out the H2 (what a gay looking machine), and they own Subaru (so I've heard), so where does Suzuki fit other than for a small commuter type car?

As much as I'd love to see Suzuki bring out a modernized version of the Samurai or similar it ain't going to happen as long as public opinion on vehicles is so "pansy foo-foo".

Solid axle trucks are dead, the new Suzuki trucks that are coming might as well be fwd commuter cars for all the good they do. So much for a proud history.

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subaru is part of subaru izusu not owned by gm we make the carpet for them

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But I'm pretty sure GM might have a good chunk of Isuzu stock too as they market the Rodeo in other countries with the Chevy symbol ..

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And there is no linkage between Subaru and Isuzu...

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General Motors owns 20% of Suzuki, and shares the CAMI plant in Ingersoll, Ontario, Canada, which produces the Vitara/Tracker and Swift/Metro.

General Motors owns 49% of Isuzu.

General Motors owns 20% of Subaru.

Subaru and Isuzu share the huge SIA plant in Lafayette, Indiana in which they produce most of the vehicles they sell in North America.

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Seems like GM is going in the wrong direction Chrsysler is going to come out with a rear wheel drive V8 passenger car, Ford was smart enough to never do away with them and GM once it realizes that there is a market for these vehicles will have to play catch up.And once the Yuppies move on to hat ever they start to drive next the auto makers will start to go back to making 4x4s the way people really want them.

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