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post #1 of (permalink) Old 07-28-2001, 10:38 PM Thread Starter
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Shackle reversals versus SPOA

The purpose of modifying my suspension is to get lift without compromising drivability -- to put some small distance between my Xfer case and the ground and still drive it to work.

Calmini claims their S/R is "how it should have been designed" -- lift with a better ride. It is also obvious from their illustations that one might have a tough time later trying to put an aftermarket bumper on as this S/R changes the frame-end mounting dimensions.

A SPOA gives lift. But does it seriously degrade handling in everyday driving?

I don't want lots of lift, just safe simple lift.

Are there any other ways to lift (besides body)??

Your comments, please.

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Re: Shackle reversals versus SPOA

howdy,
i tried the shackle reversal. under hard, but not HARD braking, it gave me brake dive. the brake dive lead me from the shackle reversal, or shall i say fangs, to the spoa, and so weld of the passenger side wheel well where the tire bent the floor up. but some poeple might say the reversal is get. i am just one man, with just my knowledge and past dealings. so don't just take my word for it.

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I have a Calmini SR lift and I do like it. It does what it says it does. Not the most flex but on the gravel roads I drive on allot it help more than I can say. Stock I would not go over 30mph on them with the SR and 30's on I do the same road over 60 the faster I go the smoother it is.

If you plan on doing major off roading and rockcrawling a SPOA always one of the best mods you can make. I don't run SPOA on mine but for mud and the offroading around here it is not needed.

Check out www.izook.com they have an excellent articals and all the links to the manufactures. Do some research and plan ahead Money on a Calmini S/R or any mod is wasted if a year later you go to something else.

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I have them both and I love both of them. The shackle reversal will give you brake dive but it does ride alot better. My $0.02

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Re: Shackle reversals versus SPOA

I've just installed a S/R on my 87 with 30's. It has improved the ride quite a bit and I'm one happy camper. Depending on your driving habits, the brake dive issue (or non issue) will determine if this is acceptable or not to you. Personally, I don't think it is an issue. It is there, but if you drive defensively, it is barely noticeable. For the money, the S/R is a good buy.

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I will swear by the s/r and am modifying my Calmini s/r to accept the longer rear springs rather than throw it out like most seem to do when they do a rear spring on front mod. But I don't do 4+ star trails, so I don't really know what to expect with the s/r in hard core situations. I tackle the road and the 3 star trails just fine though.

One thing I have noticed on Calminis set up, the rear angle is thrown off about 1/2", so I added a shim to keep my joints aligned properly. The extended shackle on the back drops the the driveshaft a bit. One of the first things I was taught was to keept hose ujoint angles true on each end of the driveshaft, and the Calmini s/r doesn't without adding a shim.

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I think you should do the SPOA set-up you can do this for the same price and get a better ride! The coolest thing is the fact of you ever decidin to do some off-roadin you will get more flex outta it!

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Re: Shackle reversals versus SPOA

<<<<<<A SPOA gives lift. But does it seriously degrade handling in everyday driving>>>>>
Heck no! I have had a 3" National spring lift before and it worked fine for a "Simple lift" but I wanted more flex and got it from a SPOA, and it handled the same on road(without the sway bar too), and for a Samurai it rode great.
The problem I see with the Calmini S/R is that you can only run 30" tire (even with 3"springs) cause it rubbed pretty bad in the rear of the wheel well.
I know this cause a buddy of mine had it on there and I saw it 1st hand.

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Re: Shackle reversals versus SPOA

Okay, so far I see a lot of S/R votes. Brake nosediving is something I can live with.

Since I don't plan to go Rock crawling, S/R is looking better...

Now, what about the ability to attach aftermarket bumpers after the Calmini installation?

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Re: Shackle reversals versus SPOA

hey ack, how was that ride to chicago after melt. hope it was enjoyable. i ran a calmini s/r for years. didnt seem to have any real problems with it. but i can drive a mack with 3/4 turn of play in steering wheel n not bother me. if i were to do it over again, i wouldnt mess with the s/r though. i enjoy my comfort toooo much. i would definately go with a spoa. rides much better i personally believe. BUT for a spoa, you need to be able to weld or have somebody weld for ya unless you get a *bolt on spoa*. a spoa will handle a lil bit differently, but if done properly n you got good bushings in the frame n springs. its nothing to worry bout. just realize that you got a taller rig n take time to get used to it. remember, its not a vette. dont do 80mph through the city. with a spoa, you are setting yourself up approx 4.5 inches. if you ever decide to run larger tires, the hard work is done already. like i said, i would go spoa. true, i have s/r on mine right now, but thats cause the kit i bought was designed with s/r incorperated into it from the manufacturer.
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