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post #1 of (permalink) Old 07-27-2001, 10:26 AM Thread Starter
 
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1.6 conversion - how much lift?

how much lift is required to install a 1.6 liter?

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Re: 1.6 conversion - how much lift?

The 1.6 has a longer (taller) cylinder rather than a larger diameter. The decl on the 1.6 is 2" taller than the 1.3. So you will need a 2" bod lift at least, as well as a longer exhaust to reach the manifold.

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Re: 1.6 conversion - how much lift?

I was just told that if I had a SPOA I won't need the body lift to clear the 1600 cc motor.

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Re: 1.6 conversion - how much lift?

How does a SPOA move the body up without the engine? I'm confused? It's not the oil pan that is the problem, its the hood.

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Re: 1.6 conversion - how much lift?

I heard it was an oil pan issue. If you use the 1.6 oil pan you need about 3" lift.

There is a way to use the 1.3 pan by welding in the 1.6 pick up tube. Then you wouldn't need any lift.

This is just what I've heard and not my experience.



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Re: 1.6 conversion - how much lift?

The oil pan is what presents a problem with the 1.6 conversion. There is questionable clearance between the oil pan and the top of the front axle. As a minimum, I would recomend a basic SPOA lift, though there is a way to modify the 1.3 pan to be used. A body lift would not work because it does not increase the distance between the oil pan and axle, only between the body and frame (the engine and suspension are both attached to the frame)). A body lift would be helpfull if you wanted to retain the "over the engine" intake tube. The stock Samurai intake will fit over the 8v TBI, provided you drill two holes through the intake that line up with the two threaded posts on the TBI.(remember to plug the center hole).

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Whoa, Calmini told me there was no hood clearance because of the higher deck on the block... DA DUM! Scary. That's why I love this page, you can get second opinions on everything so you don't have to take one mans word for something.

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Re: 1.6 conversion - how much lift?

I don't have a body lift on mine - works fine and I have the Calmini kit.

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Re: 1.6 conversion - how much lift?

for a 1.6 conversion, the oil plan is the clearence issue. you will need suspension lift for that, the simplest anyways. IIIIFFFFFFFF you are going to use the 1.6 tracker/kick efi, thats when the body lift is needed for clearence reasons of the efi unit. i have HEARD that you can *massage* the underside of the hood n make it work fine, but, I DONT KNOW FOR A FACT. i have a 2 inch body lift.
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Re: 1.6 conversion - how much lift?

If you allready had a SPOA lift and were afraid of the hood clearnace. The easiest way to get the clearance would be to make your own engine mounts that lowered the engine an inch or so. I'm talking about the metal mount between the engine and the rubber block. They are easy to make...just get good measurements and the angle right, and you can incorporate the 1.6 rubber mounts also. Way easier than installing a body lift!

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