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post #1 of (permalink) Old 07-27-2001, 12:46 AM
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Quarter lip.

This board is contagious.
I have my Zuk booked in on Monday A.M. to have the rear shock mounts moved inboard so as to fit long travel shocks.
But then I think, maybe if I allowed for a quarter eliptical conversion now, and bought much longer shocks, then do the liptical later ?
So, Q. I have 2" + springs with Revolver shackles on back.
Is it possible (and safe) to fit a quarter lip as well (Tho later)
For this I will need much longer shocks I know.
How much more down travel should I allow for.?

Any thoughts appreciated, I just don't want to junk my shocks 4 mnths down the track.
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Re: Quarter lip.

My advice, save the moola and spend it only once on the QERS. Plan for the final outcome and don't waste money.

Otherwise, the QERS uses 9012's, or 32+" shocks

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Re: Quarter lip.

My buddy has rear 1/4 elip and he runs the longest shock Rancho makes. I think it is 9012's? Anyway it is there longest shocks.

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1/4 vs. 3/4 Elliptical

Hello Alfie,

I am thinking you are meaning to say 3/4 elliptical instead of 1/4. Happens all the time -

A leaf spring suspension is an "elliptical" suspension because you're using an elliptically arched spring to hold up the weight. Stock Samurai's come with a 1/2 elliptical, meaning half an ellipse. If you cut that spring in half, 1/2 of a 1/2 = 1/4, or Quarter elliptical. If you ADD that piece of spring to your existing leaf, you create a 3/4 elliptical ( 1/2 + 1/4). If you somehow made a spring into a complete circle, it would be a full elliptical.

Now that you're throrughly confused, I believe I would go ahead & pay for the longest shock possible on your rig.

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Re: 1/4 vs. 3/4 Elliptical

how would you add half of a spring to a full spring?

the spidertrax kit has some sort of half spring configureation... isnt that where they get the wuarter elliptical stuff?

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Steve,

I'm sure you've heard the term "Buggy Leaf" suspension - that's a 3/4 elliptical. This is where you use part of the main leaf from another spring pack, and connect it to the frame on top of the shackle of a standard-type leaf configuration. When the suspension compresses, the leaf is pressed against the frame. When it droops, the single leaf easily flexes to allow extra travel. Do a search pretty much anywhere & you can find pictures on this - it has been done a lot.

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Re: Elliptical101

i thought that is what you were talking about, but i wasnt sure... anyhow, i would probably trade a kidney for that spidertrax 1/4 elliptical setup... does anyone know how much lift that provides? and then what would need to be done with the front?

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As far as I have seen it is the same as a SPOA. James has SPOA in front and 1/4 elip in the rear and it sits level.

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Re: Elliptical101

Yeah, I got the 3/4 elliptical (buggy-leaf) rear-end, and will shortly have the same on the front. Here's a pic that shows the full 3/4 elliptic shape...

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Re: Elliptical101

Are the buggie leaf mods hard to do in the rear?
What kind of springs are used for the upper 1/4 liptic? Does this mod drastically increase nose dive during emergency braking (no not braking parts! slowing down !!!) heheh.

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