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post #1 of (permalink) Old 07-26-2001, 10:38 AM
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I am going to need to do some major work on my motor some time in the next two months. It is burning and leaking oil. It has gotten worse and worse over the last few months. I need to do something but what? I talked to Brent and T.T. he mentioned not staying with the stock motor and replacing it with a 1.6 16v EFI. That is fine and dandy but man does it cost a lot. He want 2100 + shipping. I can rebuild my motor but it is going to take some boring to get it running ship shape. And it seem like a waste of money because of the upgrades I need to do; cam, header, weber, High compression head, the rebuild kit, and then not even notice a difference from stock. After all of that I could have bought a lot of other stuff like lockers and gears. The good thing is if I rebuild what I have I can add performance stuff slowly. If I go with the 1.6lt I have to pay for it all at the same time. Man I don't know what to do. Is it a waste to build a stock motor? What should I do?

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Yep, man I feel your pain. I too, am nursing my engine along 'till I can rebuild or replace it.
You are talking about the life force of your Zuke - so I'd recommend transplanting a bigger/better engine, if you have to do something. By the time you do the rebuild, buy the kit, add on the mods to enhance performance, bore it, etc. etc. etc.... you will probably be just as well off to have something better right up front.
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I seems to me that a bone stock 1.6 can out perform a built stocker. Would that be a true statement?

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I rebuilt my 1.3 and am very happy with it offroad, it cost me
around 500.00 but I did all the work. if you have it rebuilt you are looking at 1k at least. I know Mxnhid can get good 1.6l 16 valve motors at a good- 500.00 area price, plus the
harness and computer, then you will need to get the harness modified. for 250-400.00 plus an adapter kit for 150.00 or so. so you are around 1K either way. My 1.3 is so-so on the highway but evan stock they are. Up to you on what you want.


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I'd prefer the 16V but it IS expensive. The 8V is a lot cheaper to install and, if you like your carb, you can just unbolt your intake and bolt it up directly to the 8V motor and you don't have to mess with the wiring. Lately it seems like the 8V can be had for around $500-$600 depending where you look. Someone on here was saying they could get them. I think he lives in Mass. but I can't remember his BBS name...

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"then you will need to get the harness modified."
What kind of mod needs to be done. I thought it was a direct swap of the harneses?

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You can drop a 1.6L 8v in your Samurai with no other costs except the engine adapter kit. That can run from as little as $150 to as much as $200+ depending on where you purchase it. You can use you 1.3L head ontop of the 1.6L short block so that you can use your stock mechanical fuel pump (1.6L is fuel injected so it does not have provisions for a mechanical fuel pump) or opt for an electric fuel pump. I would recommend going with the electric pump and save the 1.3L head as a spare. You can mount the 1.3L intake and exhaust manifold directly onto the 1.6L engine/head and use all of the Samurai wiring, carburetor, exhaust, and emission controls on the 1.6L engine. This is the least expensive engine swap that you can perform. I have a 1.6L Tracker engine with a header/2" exhaust and a pair of Mikuni carbs and it plain out kicks a$$!

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Well with the 1.6 16 valve you are also swapping to EFI.
you need to send off the doner Kick/Tracker harness to be modified so you can tie it into the sami harness. you use the tracker/kick computer. also I forgot you need a VSS sensor mod done to the instrument cluster too. (Vehical speed sensor.)

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I knew about the sensor. Brent said that the 8 valve is not worth the time. I know a guy who has that set up and it goes like crazy. Where can I get a motor? I called all over and no luck.

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Hey Billy Bob maybe you can help me out with this? What motors do you have laying around?

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