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\'88.5 idiot light on after gauge install? Help?

I got the Raider gauges wired and installed, and they look and work factory, can't wait to show you all. While I was at it, I installed the separate fuse block, the Jensen stereo (with detatchable face plate), CB, underhood retractable light from a Ford, radio antenna, removed the lights and fixed hinges, made some hinges with removeable pins similar to Wildweasels (gotta give credit where it's due, except the removeable idea, he has a nice rig!), and cut down rim #2 to weld the center section inverted.

So, here is my problem, the oil idiot light stays on when the separate gauge is hooked up. The gauge appears to work normally however and the light goes off when I remove the gauge wire. For those of you that have hooked up a separate oil temp gauge on an '88.5, does your idiot light stay on? I am thinking of just putting a piece of tape over it, but will hit hurt anything (ECM?). I tapped in a separate wire directly off the block, so there are two connected to the sensor instead of the factory one. Could this be "splitting the signal" and not allowing full power forward? I used 14 ga wire, should I have used something like the factory 18 or 20 ga wire? The 14 I have is gas and oil resistant, which is why I used it in the engine compartment.

The pic is without the cover over the gauges, which is why they look funny. I have the faceplate, just need to attach it. They also work with the dash gauge lights on the dimmer.

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Re: \'88.5 idiot light on after gauge install? Help?

Oh yeah, this is what it looked like before the gauge install.

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Re: \'88.5 idiot light on after gauge install? Help?

If you disconnect the new wire does the light go out? I thought that the stock sender is just an on/off type arrangement, so the impeadance change shouldn't mess it up too much.
I just had another though on the subject, the sender may just provide the ground for the stock light, and with the
additional guage hooked up it is getting a ground connection
through that. (Gotta love japanese wiring. (Not!))
As to the hinge Idea well I have been talking about the removable pin for awhile, But haven't moved it to the top of the to-do list. While at the Melt I plan on un-bolting the windshield and taking it off for the runs.
(Along with the targa and anything else I can smash...)

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Re: \'88.5 idiot light on after gauge install? Help?

i installed some sunpro gauges. my factory oil light fades in and out all the time. just my experience

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Re: \'88.5 idiot light on after gauge install? Help?

Pull your factory cluster out (4 screws) and remove the bulb in the oil light since you have a gauge now.

Will look really good when you install the faceplate.... and functional.

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Re: \'88.5 idiot light on after gauge install? Help?

That begs the question, how do I remove the gauges. I found the 4 bolts, but the steering column and hazard switch are in the way.

Glenn, here is a pic of the stuff I'm sending you. I got it from a lawn sale, in a military commo box even. I used the pin and chain to replace the center pin on the hinge and then threaded the end of the pin and put a nut there. They remove easily and look great with the chain, which is going to be attached to the windshield frame.

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Re: \'88.5 idiot light on after gauge install? Help?

Sooooo...your idiot light is on? Does it only come one when you're sitting in it?[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

Dude, I'll leave that one alone![img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img][img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img][img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]

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Maybe that's why the new radio smiles back at me!

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I could be wrong but the factory gauge is not the sending unit that you need. It is a on or off type, you need one that goes with your gauge.

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Re: \'88.5 idiot light on after gauge install? Help?

That's why I tapped off the block, it should be a direct reading gauge.

It seems to work fine, other than the idiot light staying on. It comes up slowly, and does vary slightly with engine rpm. It's a gauge, why should you need one calibrated to a specific motor?

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