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Hdtp rear doorless and mirrors?

Hey Zukists,

Last weekend I went doorless on my 88.5 Hdtp. I used about 25 cutoff disks for my Dremel tool and lots of banging with hammers and managed to gget it all done as per instructions I read someplace on the 'net.

My first question is about doing something similar to the rear door. Has anyone done this to their rear door? The hinges are reversed, i.e. the side with the upper and lower parts is on the door instead of the truck body (see attached photo). It appears to me that if cut off the LOWER portion of the hinge on the door, that I could then lift the rear door off the hinges?

I would have to do something about the rear defroster wire and speaker wires I have going to the rear door, plus the little door closer shock, but that wouldn't be too hard.

Anyone know if this works? What I mean is, will the door stay put?

While we are on the topic, I need to figure out what to do about the mirrors. I know I have seen little pieces of aluminum being sold that bolt over the front door hinges and have three holes drilled for the stock mirrors, but I have also read how hard it is to get those hinge screws loose. Knowing me I will make a huge hole in the side of the truck trying to get them out and they will strip or break off anyway.

It appears that I could just move the mirrors to the little space directly in front of the hinges, drilling three holes for some screws. Is there any reason this isn't a good idea? Can you see the mirror down there when the doors are on? It even seems that the Zuk on this page:

http://www.izook.com/tech/doors/gotzook/gotzuk.htm

had it done this way before they decided to bolt on the aluminum brackets.

Any wisdom on this topic is welcome.

thanks, all.

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Re: Hdtp rear doorless and mirrors?

Daxe, Yes I did try to move the mirrors(Thats my article) and I could not see there. That is when I moved it using the bracket. I don't know about the back door idea. Suckers pretty heavy. My hinges were worn and I got a set of the Kentrol hinges. The hinges were worn and even then when you hit a bump the door banged. When it was open you could move it up and down.Check your PM. Jim

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Re: Hdtp rear doorless and mirrors?

I don't have an answer for the rear door, but know of a way to get the hinges all the way off.

When I did my doors, I removed the hinges completely from the door and the fender (so I could bet the Samurai painted). I used an hand impact driver from Craftsman on most of the bolts. There were some that would not budge though. I took a drill slightly larger than the bolt size and drilled into the head. On some of them, that relieved just enough tension that the complete bolt came off. On others, it wasn't enough and I had to completely drill the head off. Once the hinges were completely off, there was enough of the bolt sticking out to simply back it out. Most I was able to back out with my fingers, a couple required using pliers or vice grips.

I used M8 allen key bolts to replace them.


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Re: Hdtp rear doorless and mirrors?

Just did that to my zuk this last sunday at Glenns. Take a sawzall and cut the bottom part of the hing off. That is.....stick the blade in pointing teeth to the ground in the little gap the hinge makes when partially open. Cut straight down. Zip Zip and your done with the hinges. The bottom peices fall right off and you cut and splice easy quick disconnects on the defroster and the ground. The shock, all i did was take the size ten nut and washer off and put the shock in the frame of the door. It wont go anywhere. Have not driven it on the road yet with the back door off, but it looks like itll be a lot airer in there. As for the side mirror, ask Glenn to post his mount on this thread, easy fab and great results. I cant do it because of my external cage blocking it.....

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Re: Hdtp rear doorless and mirrors?

when you do the thing to the door hinges what exactly do you do?? I was thinkin' about cuttin the top piece of the body hinge off??

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i think you can use the old sj mirrors, might wanna check that out. although maybe a lil hard to comby, but they are our there :-)

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Re: Hdtp rear doorless and mirrors?

here's the url for the hinge cutting info:

http://www.izook.com/tech/kimleyhinge/hingecut.htm

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Re: Hdtp rear doorless and mirrors?

when i did my dorrs it took me about 10 minutes per side i did not use a dremal tool i used a cute off wheel . kida looks like a die grider but it has big cute off wheel on the end . alot easyer than using 25 dremal tool whaeels i might have wore that one about 1/8 inch cutting hinges . the thing is the cute off wheel was so big i cute into the hinge mount on the sammy just a little but not noticeable

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Cut hinge pic. Jim

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I have a hard top and would not make the door removeable. Frist reason is the fumes. Lots and lots of fumes. Second reason is the fact that it weighs a ton and when you add a big tire it is nearly impossible to keep alighned. And last is how are you going to keep everything in your truck?

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