This guy paid too much for perches which he could have gotten -for much less- from a reputable dealer!

http://cgi.ebay.aol.com/ebaymotors/a...526773&r=0&t=0

I'm also really annoyed by people who sell SPOA lifts on eBay and advertise like this..."We will give you all the parts and the instructions on how to install the lift. With this you can still use your stock shocks, brake lines, U-bolts and drive shafts..."

I just had a 4.5 SPOA installed on mine and there is NO WAY I could run with the stock brake lines and no mods to the driveshafts. What these guys are selling is just plain dangerous and misleading.

AARRRRRRRG!

CAPN- I heard that!! Folks that are seriously thinkin of modifiying their trucks should do some research on what is going to work best for them...by talking to other enthusiats,getting online and doing some digging or loking thru some magazines. I work on our truck on rare occasions, but I know enough about what is going on with it to know that you are so right about the brake lines not being long enough! Some people are all about the GEE WIZ factor instead of what is important...safety,relability and the best product for the best price. It makes me want to e-mail that guy and send him a link to NCO.
Rae

Sooner or Later you will be shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look just right.

You know I just got done talking to that guy!! Yeah I knew nothing about the dangerous SPOA lifts though??!!

" Go Cheap n' Smooth or Forget about it!"

Thanx
Studly
92 Zuki/235's/header/cherry bomb exhaust/Still Building
72 fj40/crate 350/33's/discs

Hey STUDLY,

SPOAs aren't dangerous unless they're done poorly. A lot of vendors are selling inferior mounting plates or advertising kits as "complete" when they're really not.

This guy does not show what his perches look like, only a lifted Samurai. Those perches could be anything... I've heard of people using trailer perches to lift a Sami... He also states that his kits are complete and if he's really running a SPOA then he'd know that they ARE FAR FROM COMPLETE!

High quality 4.5in. Breeze perches will cost roughly $45.00 (give or take a couple dollars) from Tim at NCO. If you just want perches then this is EXACTLY what this guy's selling on ebay. However, Tim will tell you that you'll also need to buy or fabricate DIFFERENT brake lines as the stock ones ARE too short. Then you need to fix your draglink cuz it won't work. And, you'll really need to get the driveshaft spacers because if you flex at max you could dislocate your driveshafts at the slip joint... A complete SPOA lift is more than just the perches.

I don't do any mods without either passing them through this BBS, searching old posts or asking my Sami building friends...

AARRRRRRRG! 1987 Red JX 'vert, 4.5 BREEZE SPOA, SJ410 T-case (next week), 29 Super Swampers... more to come.... AARRRRRRRG!

oh I know but damn there is nothing we can do!...this is turning into something off of a soap bopper!

" Go Cheap n' Smooth or Forget about it!"

Thanx
Studly
92 Zuki/235's/header/cherry bomb exhaust/Still Building
72 fj40/crate 350/33's/discs

Did you buy perches from him?

AARRRRRRRG! 1987 Red JX 'vert, 4.5 BREEZE SPOA, SJ410 T-case (next week), 29 Super Swampers... more to come.... AARRRRRRRG!

Man, I know what you are talking about. That guy "TVPICARD" selling trailer perches on Ebay does not even own a Samurai! He just says he does! Anyone know where his pictures on his auction came from? They look familiar. Best all around perches on the market are the Conn-Ferr since they can be welded all the way around. I recommend them to all my hard-core off-road customers. The trailer perches are fine if you're an on road driver and you gusset the perches together. Otherwise stick to the professionally made products from experianced vendors.

It's amazing how much stuff gets said here by people who have no clue. Yes, TVPICARD has a Samurai and yes he lifted it using his directions. I have seen it and I have wheeled with him. If your run stock shocks there is no way in hell you'll ever separate your driveshafts and due to the shocks limiting travel you can loosen the brake line bracket and the stock lines sill work. Would I do this? No. I agree it's worth spending the extra money if you plan on using the vehicle much offroad.

Chris Villarreal
http://www.azrockcrawler.com
http://azdz.rockcrawler.com

I have a set of Confer perches that are sitting in the bottom of my scrap bin. I will not use them because of the small contact area on top of the axle tubes. There have been several pictures posted on this BBS of colapsed axle tubes and it seems that almost every one of those axles had a set of Confer perches welded to them. Go with the Breeze perches which wrap darn close to 180 degrees around the tubes. Avoid the eBay SPOA kits like the plague!

87' Samurai/1.6 Tracker/40mm Mikunis/header/2" exhaust/5.5" SPOA/shackle lift/CJ-Sami springs/Cross over steering/4" Pitman arm/31x13.50 TSL-SX/Pumpkin caps/Roll cage and bumpers in progress...

>>If your run stock shocks there is no way in hell you'll ever separate your driveshafts...

If I am lifting a Samurai, why do I want to use stock shocks? I'm sorry, I'm just not buying into this one. Tell me I don't have a clue like the rest, but I'm sticking with what I know.

Neal the Zukiguy

"If it is '...a Jeep thing...' I hope it isn't contagious"