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post #1 of (permalink) Old 04-11-2001, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
 
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how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

i heard any more than 2" is dangerous. what yall think?
i was thinking of making some with 1/4" thick steal at 2" wide

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Re: how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

Hmm i remember some body here had very very long shackles to fit 36" super swampers under his grey 88 zuki.. But i forget the name *cough* brian conrad *cough*..

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Re: how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

I recently met a young guy who and brought him to the Fab Fest with me. He had a gazillon inch longer shackles, if anyone hear remembers seeing them. Scary as hell looking.

Well, just recently he tipped over on a turn. Not too fast but the shackles bent/fell over. He's okay, and the truch suffered some body damage. But all was okay, this time.

I wouldn't go anymore than the 1-2" range personally.

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Re: how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

I would use 3/8" steel instead of 1/4", just my opinion. Are you going to make the shackles 2" longer than stock or are you making them for 2" of lift???

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Re: how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

Really funny Anton! About the shackles, I did have some long ass shackles to fit my 36" Swampers on, but that was wonly till I got the SPOA. After that I switched to the 2" longer then stock shackles. I WOULDN'T go any more then a 2" longer shackle, anymore then that and you will start getting into problems! Even the 2" is LONG as hell, in my book, that is why I want to get some lifted springs and go back to the stock size. later

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Re: how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

once...long ago.... I looked at a Sami for sale that had 12inch homemade shackles on it. For kicks I took it for a test drive but didn't dare go over 15mph. that was one of the scariest Samurai rides I've EVER been on.

I also saw one sitting in a parkinglot of a business once with shackles about the same length. Someone was obviously working on it becasue it still had the stock tires on it. I got a laugh...

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Re: how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

my shakles are 2 inches longer. It gives only 1 inch of lift as you're only lifting one end of the springs.
My shackles are made out of half inch steel plates and are galvanized so I don't need to paint them.
Galvanizing makes it almost rust proof and looks nice too.
I don't think you should go any longer than 2 inches over stock else you'll get crazy steering problems.

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Re: how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

they are 3" longer than stock so i guess that would be 1 1/2 inch of lift

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Re: how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

how about supporting them, ( one piece ) with say square tube bracing them together, would that make up for the extra length?

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Re: how safe are 3\" longer shackles.

The problem with long shackles is more than just the leverage they create, but also the change in castor. The longer the shackles are, the more steering "wander" you'll get. With really long shackles, the steering will be "twitchy" and very scary!

Seriously, you don't want more than 2-inch-longer-than-stock shackles.

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