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Centered rear toy axle problems?

Those out there running the toy axle that's centered, any problems with flex and the rear driveshaft? I'm looking to add a set, but was cautious about burning up U-joints. I was planning on a rear CV anyway. Should I or shouldn't I get them?

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Re: Centered rear toy axle problems?

Okay JEEPN, here is it...On the rear, you'll need to buy a pair of spring perches, and you will have to run you some new hard lines to match the Samurai lines. Can't remember if I was able to use stock ubolts or not, seems like they were too short?
If you can get a Front driveshaft with the double-ujoint then it will fit the rear axle. When you weld your perches on, you want the pinion to be pointing RIGHT AT THE T-CASE FLANGE to use that driveshaft. NOT just up from level a tad like w/ regular shafts. You will need to do a little fab work to get the driveshaft to fit on the Zuk flange. I reccommend taking the double-ujoint apart and having the little lip on it machined down so it will fit inside the zuk flange- then, turn the bolt patterns pattern 90 degrees & drill the Toy patten on the zuk flange. It sounds complicated, but it's not bad - I had access to a small bench lathe & did mine myself. Of course you will have to shorten the driveshaft - A LOT!!! It is painful to look at, but mine has held
together so far. Have it balanced, too. You will have to rig up your e-brake.
----This is all info I got from Oilburner (Tim), he e-mailed this to me and I just copyed it for you, so if he see's this he doens't have to type it again! Hope that this helps ya out, it did for me and is all working out just fine, so far!


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Re: Centered rear toy axle problems?

Thanks, I knew I'd need new perches, U-bolts and lines, those are no problem, neither is the CV shaft. What I was really wondering, and I apologize for not posting a clearer question, was whether or not people running the rear centered toy axle have a problem with binding at full flex even with the CV shaft. I found a set of 4.30 Toy axles ('85 Toy with auto tranny), and was wondering about picking them up. I think I will though, rather than try to find the '71 CJ rear D44 (it's the only one narrow enough for a Zuk, offset pumpkin, and has 1-piece axles so it's strong).

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Re: Centered rear toy axle problems?

What about a Ford 8" conversion?

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Re: Centered rear toy axle problems?

JEEPN, a buddy of mine is selling one of those D44's, I can find out how much $$ if you are interested

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Re: Centered rear toy axle problems?

JEEPN, Don't know about the "binding at full flex" question! Have you seen OILBURNERS rig? The thing flexes nice! He told me over the phone that the centered diff. causes no problem with his set-up. I found a pic of him and his rig, hope you don't mind Tim, but as you can see it flexs nice, even with his 35" tires!! E-mail him for more questions!


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Re: Centered rear toy axle problems?

<font color=blue>a buddy of mine is selling one of those D44's, I can find out how much $$ if you are interested</font color=blue>

Heck yes! I already have a spare locker for it, or a mini-spool, so I'd be interested in it, otherwise I have to sell the locker and buy another.



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Re: Centered rear toy axle problems?

Ok Mark, I will find out monday, its a friend from work. If this works out I can get it to Glenns and maybe Max can pick it up. I'll let you know...
P.S. - What is a fair price, I will try to barter for you

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Re: Centered rear toy axle problems?

Mark
I was taking to Randy at Breeze Ind. one day and he said he swings the T-case
down a bit to let the rear d-shaft line up better.
I was takin' some measurements a while back and the pumpkin is about 3-4" difference from stock!
I will check it tomorrow and let you know the exact amount.
Those are what i'll be usin too on my other(3) rig.


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Re: Centered rear toy axle problems?

Mark, spoke to my buddy with the D44. He wants $300 for it. It has 1 piece axles and 4.88 gears.

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