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post #1 of (permalink) Old 11-06-2000, 04:23 PM
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I went through the basemnt the other day and found not two not four but eight coil springs from XJ's and TJ's. Does any one know what their spring rates are compared to sidekicks and how practical it would be to try to stick these things under a sammi. I am thinking they are way to stiff for a sammi and would not allow for flex....any input is good.

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I wish that I could go into my basement and find parts.......(you are a lucky bastard)........LOL

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there is a coil kit for sammis, I forget who makes it and if they use tj springs. I do remember that it is around 800$ for the rear only and that didnt come with coils. what is an xj? Hey will you keep your eye out for yj springs, yj's are the jeep with square headlights. Im looking to go that route after seeing chris's page. I asked him and he said it flexes just as good as his 1/4 elliptical system, and if it gets that good of articulation im all about trying it. Do you know if these coils are stock tj coils or are some lifted? What else is in that basement? sounds like a cool place. Max

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an XJ is a cherokee, hey have you heard about the road handling on the yj springs, I think it would be great but I need a roadable suspension, or I can't get to class.I have a spoa right now and love it but I could use better as we all eventually find out!

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I heard that the yj springs make for hard handeling. I am not using this as a daily driver, but i will investigate the use of a panhard bar and something to stop s-wrap on the rear, torsion bars or something of the sort. Any set up with M/L is a little worse then a regular spoa, but like all things, you adjust and adapt to make it work for you.

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XJ's have coil fronts, leaf rears. TJ coils are designed to work with a vehicle that weighs in excess of 3,200 pounds, so my guess is they'd be a little stiff. How much you want for them though, the wife has a TJ and we might use the coils later on when hers sag. Are they off a 4 cyl or 6 cyl and are they designed for use with the hard top?

The YJ's have a set of swaybars front and rear, so this would be a good place to start for stability. Incidentally, the TJ is very stable with the swaybars connected. With the front disconnected, it has noticeable body roll, but is still controllable. With the rear disconnected it's a death trap over 10 mph, completely unpredictable and impossible to drive. Ramp travel numbers for a 23 degree ramp are: 330 stock, 490 front disconnected, 495 front and rear disconnected, so the rear actually does little for travel.

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In my basement? Hummmm 6 front coils for 87/91 Cherokees and a set of Springs front n back for a 99 Wranger. I also have a set of four control arms of the wrangler and i think about twelve shocks for the above vehicles. I also have a York compressor from an AC system that will go on the sam when it get running (maby this year) ........ say I am in Ronaoke, VA and I found a guy that wants to junk a late model Checker Bus that has a centered D44 in it. If you come and get it i bet you can pick it up for $20(bolt patter semms real close looking at it too). man I wish I had discovered this board before I gave most of my old jeep stuff away.....

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Hey, whats a 99 wrangler? I thought that was a tj in 99 and it was on coils. If its a yj then they ended in 97?? and it is the square one, if that is so then I would like to buy those front springs from you. Can you take the measurements for me on the front ones? I am really looking for a set. thanks, Max.

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a TJ is still a Wrangler, in fact, it is better known as a Wrangler then a TJ, except to guys like us. A friend at work owned one since '97 and when I called it a TJ he said " no, I have a Wrangler!"

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The '99 is a TJ Wrangler. TJ is the two letter designation code for a Wrangler, as was the YJ, just different years. Kinda like a CJ-8 is a Scrambler, and a Scrambler is a CJ-8.

The YJ's (Wranglers), ended production in 1995, and the TJ's (Wranglers again) started production in 1997, so technically there is no 1996 Wrangler. Jeep held the YJ's late and started the TJ's early (we ordered ours in early May 1996).

I'm interested in the coils for the TJ, arms, and shocks. I'll send you an e-mail and maybe we can strike a deal.

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