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post #1 of (permalink) Old 09-26-2000, 11:10 AM
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Smoother Ride......

I've looked at past posts and still can't decide what the best solution to my question is. I have a stock 86 Sammy which is my daily drive. I put around 150 miles a day on it, primarily at 45-60 mph. I would like to hear from you about the best solution, and most cost effective, to smooth out the ride. Am I looking at lifting, stretching, folding, bending..anyway, I really am unsure of what to do or where to start. I am not intending on creating an off-road only ride, but would like to take it off the road.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks all

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Re: Smoother Ride......

It seems that I am looking for the same thing as you. The preliminary recommendations that I am getting (from two separate dealers) seems to be go to Old Man Emu (OME) springs with no other modifications with the exception of greaseable shackles and urethane mounts. Wider wheels (8 inches) would also serve well on or off road. So with that in mind I will be saving for OME springs and short (3/8 lift)Conferr shackles with greasable urethane mounts. This lift (about 2 inches) will more than clear any tall rubber I might want to install. The rubber I was considering was 28-29 inches depending on if I want to install a GRS I or keep stock gears. P rated tires would be better for road and LT rated tires better for off road. Keeping your unsprung weight low with alloy wheels would help onroad handling. This may sound like blasphemy but I am considering a rear sway bar for onroad use. I will know more in a couple of weeks after I talk to my Samurai mechanic. Contact me by personal email if you want further details and the names of dealers that made the recommendations.

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Re: Smoother Ride......

I think others are more pro at this than me,but my experiences show that if you put ATs on instead of mudders this smooths it out a little, but having the best of both worlds is about impossible.Somethings got to be sacrificed somewhere on an on-off road vehicle.Of course I havent experienced with better shocks or springs or anything.

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Re: Smoother Ride......

Dave,

The OME springs Really are plush! Add to this the larger tires the lift will give you, and I think you will be very pleased with how much better the ride will be. Wider rims will help handling, too.

Your will practically lose 5th gear with the larger tires until you re-gear. A GRS I - type unit would be ideal, and at 150 miles per day, I'd bet it won't take you long to get one ordered [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Re: Smoother Ride......

If you are not looking to lift or spend lots of money, I sugest you start cheap and work with what you have.

You could pull the spring packs off and separate the leaves, clean them with a wire brush, then coat them with "Slip Plate" a graphite impregnated substance that works very well on leaf springs.

That should soften up the springs and be a good place to start.

Also, check your spring eye bolts and shackle bolts to make sure they are not too tigh. Check for a good fit and no binding there. Greasable shackle bbolts are an option you could look into.

From there, I wuold look into getting a good set of shocks to smooth out the ride. Lots of opinions here, so others may want to chime in with what they found to work. It is hard to beat RS9000's for their adjustability here.

Probably the easiest and cheapest thing to check is tire air pressure. Loweing the air pressure slightly can really soften the ride of the vehicle and work well with the suspension mods I mentioned above.

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Re: Smoother Ride......

remember, factory recommended tire pressure is only 20 PSI

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So I'm looking at a somewhat smoother ride or excessive tire wear by lowering the air pressure..

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Re: Smoother Ride......

I would avoid urithine bushings. They do inprove handliing but are alot stiffer. I used them on mine when I frist started and HATE them. Good factory rubber bushings are softer and move better. With greasable shackles they should be great. Add wider tires and lower air pressure(20psi or so) and that should help.

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A Calmini shackle reverse would be a good way to smooth out your ride and also get a 2" lift. Cost effective---If you don't want to buy a new one, keep your eyes on the IZOOK classifieds for a good used one.

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Re: Smoother Ride......

Not at all!

Lowering tire pressure does not have to mean increased tire wear.

I would use the wet tire method to check that you are running at or just below optimum tire pressure. Air the tires up to like 35 psi and drive through a piddle on concrete. Looat the wet tire print and you will see most likely that the whole tread pattern is not showing up, just the center of the tread. Now, lowe the pressure and repeat until you have an even contact patch showing for the whole tread surface - shoulder to shoulder. You could then go slightly lower than that to help soften the ride.

Set like this, your tires should maximize wear and wear evenly across the tread as they are supposed to do.

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