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Calmini Bolt-on 6\" SPOA!?!?!

Calmini has a new 6" SPOA. All bolt-on. They ran a few of them for the Calmini Customer run. I understand that our fair lady Jessika J. has it installed, and I'm trying to get some feedback from her on it.

Did anyone go on the Calmini run and see this set-up first hand? How did it perform? I'm really interested as this has wonderful possibilities. Bend an axle tube or trash a diff, and you can simply bolt it onto a new one without having to order new perches and weld.

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I cannot wait to see what Calmini has developed.....seems very interesting

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i'M INTERESTED IN ANY FEEDBACK ALSO


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[b]WHAT!!!! Calmini and SPOA are not supposed to be used in the same sentence!!! I thought Steve Kramer was the most anti-SPOA person in the world. I mean I think it's cool and everything but I never thought I'd live to see the day that Calmini offered a SPOA kit. Good for them.

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Re: Calmini Bolt-on 6\" SPOA!?!?!

Today, I saw an in-person halfway-in calmini power steering BOLT IN kit which was a replacement for a trail tough weld in power steering kit that looked to complex for that particular application. Calmini has very astutely targeted their market with the bolt on approach.

I wonder if they will still sell those circle slash spoa stickers? I'm going to look at the website....

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They've been preaching for years about the 'evils' of SPOA.

I don't know whether to be happy that they've finally thrown in the towel.... or laugh at this ultimate example of hypocrisy.

I wonder if it will only come with 3" longer brake lines like their "5 inch combo kit", or if the shocks will be shortened appropriately (as with the S/R kit) to avoid having to spend a few more bucks on brake lines actually tall enough for the lift.

One cannot debate that I'm correct in my analysis, but I'm ready for the attempts anyhow. Bring it on...


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Six inches is a pretty tall SPOA lift, I wonder what they're doing to control spring wrap? If this kit survives Jessika then nobody can
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Since I first heard about it, I've been wondering the same thing Glenn is: why have they all of a sudden decided that the SPOA configuration isn't so bad? And since their Combo Kit is supposedly the "ultimate" suspension, then what need was there to design a SPOA?

As a bolt-on, it has its advantages. But it also has its serious disadvantages as compared to a tradition welded-on SPOA. With all the advertising that will surely be pushing it, tons of people will buy it. For their satisfaction and safety, though, I hope it is better-designed than the Combo Kit was.

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Re: Calmini Bolt-on 6\" SPOA!?!?!

Seems I can remember way back when you were still in diapers Zukiman, someone had a "Bolt on SPOA' the perches had teeth (unlike the Buckeye Girls).

Anyway they didn't last long, due to bent and broken drive shafts from them coming loose, or slipping. I guess they would be ok, if you don't have any power.

Sure,,,,bolt on will hold better than a weld?

Jessica using it isn't a fair test, I hear she can bend a crow bar in a sandbox!

Next Glenn will be selling Shackle reverse spring under, with a Tracker Power steering combo?

I must be dreaming.

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Re: Calmini Bolt-on 6\" SPOA!?!?!

Jessika...giggle...she IS the ultimate tester. Girl drives by braile, but has more spunk and "ballz" than alot of other men out there (including me). I watched (and photo'd) her going thru Upper Hellderado with the 5" Combo. Now she didn't do it pretty, but experienced less trouble than some SpOA rigs. And to see her giggle and laugh all the way thru it was worth a million bucks.

I heard that she fell down and went boom (flop over) at the Calmini Run. From what I'm told, she picked a doozy of a line and no one else tried. And again, she laughed all the way. God bless her.

As far as some of the other comments, here's what I know. The top spring perches tie into the existing perches. The assembly has lowered bottom shock mounts to run the long shocks up front. I guess you could install Ford upper mounts and run even longer. The rear has longer shocks, too.

Yes, it has longer brakelines. I don't know what everyone has against braided lines. I have the 5" Combo lines, and even with eXpander shackles in the rear, which adds ~4" more droop, AND longer shocks up front AND shorter-than-supplied bumpstop extensions (to completely flatten my arched springs), I still have some extra on the lines, they are not tight. To say they are too short is balhooy. And no, the springs haven't lost their arch.

As far as the SpOA vs. SpUA debate, Steve still perfers SpUA. But that doesn't mean that they can't produce both and do a damn good job at it. As Steve said, if that (read: SpOA) is what some people want, then why not offer it to them? In a bolt-on form, this kit is great for those without a welder or a welder friend. And welding can be spooky for the less the proficient. A guy named Steve Storo I met in Moab was SpOA. He brought it to a off-road shop for the welding. They didn't get the perches level with each other and overheated the tubes. Expensive mistake.

Let the product speak for itself, and Jess is the perfect tester. If you have any other questions, call Calmini and ask what it will consist of.

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