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post #1 of (permalink) Old 09-17-2000, 02:20 AM
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Need Help with Starter Diagnosis

1988 Suzuki Samurai

The starter is starting intermitently when left for a long period of time. If left for short periods (30 Min.) it has no problem starting. When left for longer periods when I turn the key I hear a click but nothing happens. I try it again an it usually works.
Can anyone tell me what component may be failing. I have already replaced the brushes.

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Re: Need Help with Starter Diagnosis

Just had a similar problem. My batt/alt was in good shape and all elect. connections were good so it came down to the starter solenoid. Needed a quick fix so I bought a rebuilt starter/solenoid combo and problem solved. Hope this helps.

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I was just thinking about the solenoid being the problem. What is typically in the solenoid that would need replacing? What exactly was happening to your Zuke?

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Ahh suzuki starters.... i hate them. I have to clean mine out and oil it every water dipping. proabley the starter solnoid, mine clicks like that all the time, but i think it is my battery and wire connections. I have a pretty unhealthey electrical system.. Oh well.
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Re: Need Help with Starter Diagnosis

This sounds like the problem i had in my farm tractor. It is either dirty contacts on the solenoid, im not sure if it is cleanable, to test just quickly short the two contacts on the solenoid with a wrench or something and see if the starter turns, if not it could be bad wireing. Don't worry about getting shock, you wont.

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Get out the BFH (big f*****g hammer)and tap the starter if it clicks. Sometimes this works if you're really in a bind. Otherwise, I think all the other posts are correct, start the diagnostics with your solenoid. I just went through this last week. Bought a used starter to replace mine and it still didn't do the trick. Turned out the solenoid was faulty. Took the solenoid off the the weak starter and used it with the used one we bought. Works like a charm now.

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Solenoid can have bad points, spring or coil. Only practical to clean the points. Your problem could also be bad starter windings. I use a remote starter switch to test starter isolating ignition switch problems and accociated wiring.

Check for good main wires from battery to starter and to ground. Bad dirty terminals and ate up wires are often problem.

Too many deep discharges of battery means you must buy new one.

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Check for good main wires from battery to starter and to ground. Bad dirty terminals and ate up wires are often problem.
do this first!!! both my sammy and isuzu trooper have had this happen to them


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What are the point on the solenoid. Are you referring to the positive and ground on the solenoid itself. How do you crack a solenoid open. Does it just come apart if the two screws are taken out? What is a starter winding?

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