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post #1 of (permalink) Old 08-30-2000, 09:22 AM
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VW Diesel Conversion

Has anyone installed a VW Diesel into their Samurai? Cost? Ease of installation? Smog Legal? MPGs? Power / Torque? The only things that I have heard about these conversions is from the vendors who sell the kits (websites, phone calls, etc.) Any real world feedback would be appreicated....

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Pug,

I wheeled almost all week with Doug (Keltec) out in Moab this year. It is a nice conversion and if I wasn't so "purist", I'd go for it. With stock gearing in both the t-case and diffs, he made a lot of things look easy. Crawled around Hell's Revenge at barely an idle.

As for ease, it seems strait forward. But you need deep pockets when compared to soup'n up a 1.3 or swaping a 1.6. Lotza little bits, and they can add up. The 1.9 TDI motors aren't cheap either.

Other than that, I'd recommend it. And Doug is a hell of great guy just to hang out with.

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You say it was stock gearing? Well that will add to the savings of purchasing one then. Dont gear down, swap a 1.9 td in there darnit! I SO BADLY want to do this conversion, but im waiting for winter. I will, I will, I will.... Im having DannyL look into engines up there in canada and I have a friend in the Salvage bussines that is linked all over. The best ive seen on an engine though is 2000.$ us, and thats still going to be 4000. $ by the time im done just because the kits are 800. and there is probably a grand worth of knick knack paddy crap that will bite me in the hinny. But I must hear the gurgle and smell the diesal in my lungs before im complete. Plus itll match my bumpers real well. take care, Max

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I will post on how my VW diesel conversion goes-- the engine should be here early next week & I plan to have my rig rolling ASAP & will be at Tellico 1st weekend in Oct.

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Oilburner?? you changed your name? (ahhh diesal, how fitting) Really keep me posted on this , im following suit. what type of engine did you get, how much and who from? Thanks Max

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Sorry it has taken so long for me to respond to your post. I am Doug Kelsay of KELTEC Systems, manufacturer of the kit you mentioned.

We have found that to install the engine, it will cost from $1200 - $1500. This is the cost of the kit, the flywheel, and all the ancilary items required to install your motor. This cost doesn't includ an engine, the samurai or the lift.

Please note that you can spend more on the installation, depening on how you do it, but we tried to consider the cost of some parts at retail and some at "junk yard" prices - for those that you might typically find at a junk yard.

Engines are the biggest cost variable. We typically find 1.6 NA diesels (rabbit diesel) at ~$200. New 1.9 TDs go for about ~$3000. Others are in between.

Please e-mail me direct at [email protected] or phone me at 281-251-7971 for further details.

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HEY DOUG!

How you been? Hope all's been well. I've got quite a few good action shots of you from Moab. Email me and I'll forward them out to you.

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Max,

To answer your question, I've chosen a 1.9L naturally-aspirated (non-turbo) diesel. Why? Several reasons:
1. Brand-new engine obtained from a source thru Keltec (see Doug's post)
2. The N/A diesel has more off-idle torque than the turbo motor-- while this might not be ideal for a street ride, on the trail it will have it's advantages. [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
3. Lower initial cost. (Than the 1.9 Turbo)
4. Lower replacement parts cost (than the TD)
5. THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT! [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img][img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img][img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]



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