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Will the real shadetree please STAND UP!

I guess everybodys lost if theve never heard the song(i have to here it at work),but anyway,I was supposed to score on an engine for 300$,cuz I think mines toast(burning a quart a week remember?)but I went down yesterday and all he had was front wd engines.Didnt know what i would have to go through to make it adapt to the rwd.Well I didnt get it.Now,I gotta tighten up and try to save the old one that burns,so anyone knowledgeable with the 1.3s and has any suggestions please hear my plea.Umbrella seals?Ive got good compression so.......I dont know,help

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When I first bought my 86 the engine smoked bad, I ended up replaceing the valve seals, to no help. Then decided to rering the engine, and BOY LET ME TELL YOU the oil rings WERE FROZE to the PISTONS! letting tons of oil by. Well I reringed it, honed the cyl walls, checked the bearing ( perfect condition with 130k) and put it back in. It took about 1000 miles to seat the new rings, and when it did lots of power gains and NO smoking. Course I took that engine out and it's sitting in the corner of my garage waiting to go into another 86 I bought with no engine, Put the 1.6 sidekick in with 135k on the original sidekick odo, and now have loads of low end power, and still no smoke. go figure.

Oh and by the way, bad oil rings will NOT effect compression

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I see.Thanks for the feedback,I guess Ill go ahead and bite the bullet and buy a low mileage one from an engine shop and rebuild mine down the road.Sidekick conversion?hmm......Look for posted Qs about that later.

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Why not rebuild what you have now?

I can't see where you gain a great amount
of power with the 1.6L conversion being that
it is only 3 tenths of a liter and seems like a
lot a work for a little performance gain IMHO.
Am I missing something on this?

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Well there are two areas that will cuase you to "burn" oil , Head -Valve stems,seals, or block- worn rings pistons.
or you are leaking it. our 1300's are infamous spewers of oil. There is the fuel pump, valve covergasket, distributor
oring, distributor housing,main seals etc etc. How clean is the engine? if it is oily try cleaning it with engine cleaner and see if you can track down any leaks and go from there. If your compression is good 175psi then you
should try to run down any oil leaks. good luck.

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installing the 1.6 is no more work than the 1.3. 3/10 of a liter does not sound like much, but every bit helps, some people go with .020 oversize pistons for more power and claim that adds power. The 1.6 will give you 25-30 horsepower, throw in a cam, headder and free-flow exhaust and you get a good power boost, not bad since the 1.3 is about 65 horsepower. We installed a 1.6 in a friends stock samurai about a month ago, boy, what a difference, it actually put you in your seat when you stepped on the gas, it was a blast to drive...until he spun a bearing, but thats another story. If you decide to find another engine, also keep an eye out for one of these, I have found that they are easier to come by then the 1.3 (more of them were made) and cost about the same. Good luck.

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with good compression i would look for leaks-valve cover-
oilpan-front seal-rear seal-distributor-my favorite the
fuel pump-clean you engine realy well then start looking
for leaks-good luck! i like 1.3 motors cam-header-exhaust
and they power up well. my 2 cents worth

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I just want to express my gratitude for all responses.Its nice to know that you can consult other enthusiasts,with our ?s and get quick helpful advice.WSB-I didnt want to rebuild this engine just yet because I thought I might use it for parts,or rebuild it later and go ahead and get another.And besides,Doesnt it cost more to rebuild?anyway,one more thing.Anybody.Should I get my main seals and timing belt from the dealer or is aftermarket ok with these?Should I put a new timing belt on an engine with less than 50k?Thanks

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This is reply to the timing belt question, Yes I would replace it. its not really too expensive, and when you have
the cover off is the time to do it. Esp if there is any oil on it. My main seals are from Hawk, other than the
cam seal they are working fine. (Got them when I did the rebuild.) I also had installed a felpro and that worked good too. (This before the rebuild.) Definatly buy 2 or 3 cans of engine cleaner and have at, that will help you figure it out. (I am going to start doing this on my new project, The wifes zook soon.)

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i bought some parts from hawk and some from autozone they
stock lots of suzuki parts also napa when i did spoa's
the have the best books/ordering system i have to agree
with glen anytime the front timing cover is off is a great
time for timing belt replacement

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