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post #1 of (permalink) Old 06-11-2000, 12:58 PM
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Help me build my new Sammy....long post

HI all-

After 15 years of building and wheeling Jeeps I have decided to build a Sammy. I drove a friends (stock) and did some mild 4 wheeling and have to admit these are sure neat little machines.

Heres the deal:
I bought a 1987 Sammy with no engine installed for a real good deal. Its navy blue with a soft-top and the body is in quite nice shape. It came with an engine with a rod thru the side (with a Weber...woohoo) and another completely apart (I have parts scattered all over my shop). I also found a running Sammy engine locally for a decent price...my intentions are to throw the running engine in and build a new one (please dont send me emails about 1.6 conversions...Im gonna keep the 1.3).

Question 1:
Where do you all recommend a rebuild kit from???and any advice when building a 1.3???

I have looked at Rocky Road and Asian of AZ on the internet. They have similar prices for similar products but I doubt I need pistons. I believe the pistons I have will be OK if cleaned.

I have alot of engine building experience but this will be my first Suzuki engine....would love to hear tips from those that have rebuilt them.

Question 2:

Suspension???

I am looking to run 31" to start. I have weighed the pros and cons of SOA vs SUA. I think I am going to do a SOA and beef up the springs with some CJ7 or YJ spring parts I have around here (I can weld and have a small machine shop in my garage). I have read that people beef up Sammy springs with these parts. I will then get chapo shocks locally and mail order any other stuff I need. I hate to put $300 springs on a cheap trail rig (I have a daily driver). Whatcha all think???

Anything else I missed????

What rims do I use for 31x10.5 tires?? Will I need spacers??

I will also eventually install front and rear lock-rights. I have installed these in Jeeps before and I like em alot. Whats the deal with these birfield rings???Do I need to worry about them with 31s??

Thanks for reading....Im anxious to get the Sammy home next weekend and get ripping.....

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Lots of good questions. I can't comment on all of them due to a lack of knowlage. However I do own a tire shop in Big Bear Lake Ca. And have 14 years wheelin experience.I can tell you that
31 x 10.50's run perfectly on an 8" rim. The side wall is almost perfectly straight. I prefer to run 31 x 11.50's. It causes the tread on the tire to wrap a little bit, giving you a little more lug sticking out the side of the tire right where the sidewall and the tread lugs meet. I wouldn't go any narrower, you can, as far as the industry recognizes the approved rim withs being 7" to 9". But I think that the 8"s look and perform sweetly. You won't need spacers with the spoa.
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Now this may be a stupid quetion.....are stock Sammy rims 8"???
Will CJ7 rims work??? I have several sets of them...

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AFAIK, the Samurai rims are all 15x5.5".

The bolt patterns are the same as the Jeep CJs though, 5 on 5.5". I just swapped my CJ's 31s directly onto the Zuk. I'm not sure if they are 15x7 or 15x8, but they fit perfect (not stock CJ, aftermarket, not sure what the backspacing is).

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I run stock CJ rims with 33x10.5 swampers and they are perfect. I think it is an 8" rim, but I'm not sure

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Excellent....

I have a few sets of these CJ rims.

Thanks for the info
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Tips to Rebuild your 1.3

Do it by the book. Check every part to make sure it is not too worn out, if it is replace it.

Everything below here is our opinion, and is a judgement call on your part.

If your 1.3 has that many miles on it, your pistons may not need replaced,,,,but you need to check the center of the cylinder to make sure. If it is oversized you will end up with that annoying piston pinging sound (like running bad gas)

We just rebuilt a 1.3 "1324" and stuck it in place of a "1298" in a 1992 fuel injected Zooki, bored it .020 over, and had the head milled, those were the only mods done to it. You wouldn't believe how much more power it has. Not just because it was new engine, it was way more than that.

We have built these "stock" for people on a budget, but they don't get as many miles out of them as ones we have bored. If you go stock and take good care of it, you should be able to run a year or two before you need to go through it again. (This is your call)

Our first rebuilt 1.3 .030 over (built in early 92)is still running great, passed emmissions, even with the hell run out of it. Just kept the oil changed and never let it over heat.

Our last built 1.3 has a bored .030 over decked-block, milled head w/all new valves, Torquer cam, header w/2inch exhaust and a free flow cat, Weber w/the bowl mod to let it climb w/out dieing. He is running 31X10.50s with the 4.16 T-case, it rock crawls great offroad, and screems on road, no need to go over 5 grand with the Torquer cam. He could have done more to it, but wanted to keep the cost down, but yet end up with a long lasting go fast 1.3, none of those adaptor or other cutting and bolting on parts, just Keep It Simple Silly,,,,You should hear it run,,gggggrrrrowl!

I sure hope this helps.

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Good tips....

My plans for the build include a 30 over block with a cam and weber carb. The Sammy came with a header and 2" exhaust with no cat (we dont have emission laws here in the boonies).

I bought (actually am buying) a used engine locally to provide go until I build the other engine. I hope its in as good shape as the owner says. If it is I will probably not build my other engine till this winter.

What numbers should I look for when I perform a compression and leakdown test on the used engine and what is an acceptable variance from cyl to cyl.???

I havent been this motivated to do engine work since I used to bracket race.....:-)

Thanks for all the good posts and private emails

Keep em coming....when I get this whole engine, SOA, gearing thing straight in my head I will post some stuff to my webpage to help any future Sammy newbies

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Compression pressure,,

Standard 199.0 psi

Service Limit 170.0 psi

Difference between cylinders 14.2 psi is the limit.

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Thanks Dave

I will have the running engine this weekend. I should be able to post the compression readings then.

Im gonna hope for the best.....

Oh...and the crank from the blown engine is shot....2 big gouges on the number 4 rod journal....:-(

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