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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-24-2010, 03:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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putting a tracker trans in my sammy

Hello to all...
I came across a deal on a 1.6 8 valve engine/trans combo that is too cheap to pass up. ( geo tracker w/ 5 speed ) I haven't picked up the combo yet so I don't know all the details...

My original plan was to swap the 1.3 in my sammy out with the 1.6. Things changed when 4th and 5th gear went out in my stock samurai trans last night. I've read the millions of articles about the engine swap, but nobody ever uses the sidekick/tracker trans with the swap. Why is this? What issues would I have with putting the complete tracker engine trans combo in my samurai?

Would it be easier to just rebuild my sammy trans and mate it to the 1.6 engine?

Thanks to all who can shed any light on this.
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This is a great swap in my opinion. You did not say if this was a 2WD or 4WD trans.2WD easier less $. 4WD More fabrication/alteration. The difficulty is You have to widen the tunnel for the larger trans and shorten your driveshaft.
The tunnel is not too hard, search for an automatic in your Samurai same clearance needed, same driveshaft, dementions. Hawk Suzuki used to sell a modified driveshaft for $100. Don't know if they still do. The shifter sits forward about 1 1/2", usually turning the boot & plate arround fixes this.

This can be done on the cheap very easily if you are super-cheap as I am;https://forums.off-road.com/suzuki-ge...6-install.html
If your carb is in good condition, just bolt it on and go. I would suggest upgrading your exhaust, like using the 1.6 exhaust.
There are many ways to go on this, depends on your abilities and $.

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Don't forget that a Sammy tranny is meant to see 3.73 R&P ratios, while a Kick 8V manual is meant to see 5.12's. This will impact your final drive ratio. IMHO, I'd rebuild the Sammy tranny (or pick up another) and mate the 1.6 to it. Trash the Kick stick tranny.

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Wink Ratio

Kick 8V 5th gear ratio is .86.
Kick 16V .795 5th gear ratio.
Samurai .795 for 86-88.
Samurai .864 for 88.5 and up.
Not that far off from a Samurai(depending on the year.

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The engine combo is out of a 4x4 tracker... Besides overdrive being geared different, are 1-4 the same ratio as the samurai?

On a second note, this is the 3rd transmission that has gone out on me. I consider my self to be easy on my sammy. Although I've purchased all my trannies used, they've been very low mileage. I just don't understand why they don't last being powered by a rubber band 55 HP engine...
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