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post #1 of (permalink) Old 10-23-2004, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
 
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Likely those cherokees are going to see a whole lot of off-roading now that their off-road prowess has been demonstrated by this stunt...

Its a luxury station wagon with ground clearance so that soccer moms can get timmy to practice in the winter -- why do the need to make like its some 4x4 off-road tough guy hero vehicle??
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I dunno..if this is a soccer mom rig, bring it on.



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I cant wait till some one runs their jeep into a building and then sue because the jeep wouldnt climb the wall

wonder how many people will see this and think that they can drive their suv up the side of a building
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Oh, I don't doubt that a Jeep GC is a competent vehicle, or can be modded into an off-road monster, but really - their primary target market is not the offroad crowd - its sophistacted suburbanites who want to feel "adventure" during their commute. Cheezy marketing that encourages overconsumpotion,
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I'd like to see the pic about 4 seconds later when that GC is contacting the rockers.I think UGLY would be the best word to describe it!!! [img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img]
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Hell get me a crane and attach the cable multiple times to the frame and I'll even sit in it and pretend to drive while they are hoisting me up.
Here in Socal all the soccer mom's are really into the Liberty, 2WD model.
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I'd like to see the pic about 4 seconds later when that GC is contacting the rockers.

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in that truck's case it would land on the rocker skids. The same thing would happen no matter what you were driving.

As for the ugly, it's a matter of taste.

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their primary target market is not the offroad crowd - its sophistacted suburbanites who want to feel "adventure" during their commute. Cheezy marketing that encourages overconsumpotion

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obviously the target market is not offroaders. honestly, offroading is such an incredibly limited market that you wont find a whole lot of concentration on it with any vehicle. how many offroaders do you know who head to a new car showroom when they are looking for something to wheel in? even things like the rubicon, which has some legit offroadability right out of the box, are purchased in greater numbers by people who have no plans to offroad them.

i think your assessment of the target market as suburbanites who want 'adventure' is a little narrow minded. sure, there are folks who fit that profile, but there are plenty of people who have a real good reason to own an SUV, whether you believe it or not. there are also plenty of reasons for owning one other than searching for phony 'adventure'.

soccer moms are called soccer moms because they (in some cases) bring kids and gear to soccer practice. sometimes more than one. sometimes they bring one to soccer and one to dance and one to karate and take another with them to the grocery store and need enough space for all the kids and their junk and the groceries, too. so when you see this woman driving down the road alone without all the kids in the rig, dont presume she's guilty of 'overconsumption'. do you use every iota of capability of everything you own at every moment? of course not.

some places in the US, and the rest of the world too, road conditions are not always the greatest. ice and snow are a reality in much of the US and driving a 4wd or awd vehicle is a metter of safety, not false 'adventure'. some people live on unpaved roads or need to travel them for whatever reason on a regular basis. in some seasons there is quite a lot of mud to deal with and trying to drive a 2wd car through it is practically a guarantee you are going to get stuck. just because you see some woman driving into the parking lot at the nail salon in july doesn't mean she doesnt have to drive through mud and snow some other time of year. maybe the rig is used to get to a hunting camp out in the woods or on top of a mountain without paved roads.

JGCs are also pretty darn pleasant to ride in. i can't think of any compelling reason for a person who wants comfort not to have it, including in their car. that's not overconsumption, it's just a choice one is free to make. they also make pretty good low-medium capacity tow vehicles, and just because you aren't hauling around a trailer full of quads or waverunners or a popup trailer all the time doesnt make your purchase of a vehicle capable of doing that 'overconsumption'.

with all that said, the je-ep name does have a connotation of a rugged and capable vehicle that will go anywhere. for a company to play on their market perception isnt 'cheesy', its smart. i'm sure there's a really minute fraction of a percentage of new JGC owners who plan to go driving over boulders anywhere, but i bet there are plenty of them that actually use the abilities of the vehicle (which include; cargo space, towing ability, handling and comfort) in some form or another. lots more of them than poser suburbanites who want fake adventure. I think you will find those people lining up at the H2 dealer. [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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He He -- it must be the tires that let it do that. I wonder what pressure it takes?


When I bought my new '03 Rubicon, on the way home, even before I got home, I took it down an arroyo behind my house. There are several loose dirt hills there, progressively steeper.
I attacked the middle one, didn't make it up even 1/3 of the way - every other 4x4 I own makes that one easy.
No matter what I did, locked, unlocked, low, crawl, storm etc., it wouldn't do it.
The front end would start "hopping" - bouncing up and down, losing traction and the hill. It felt like the early Bronco I used to race in the 60's.

I took it back to complain. The Sales Manager, and the Service Manager both said "You took it off road?" They were genuinely surprised. They said they hadn't sold one to anyone that took them off road! Granted, they'd only been out a couple months by then. They said people buy them to "look cool."

It's took about $6000 worth of mods to stop the wheel hop.

Not everyone is an off roader obviously.
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When I bought my new '03 Rubicon,

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so are you trying to say because it was a rubi it wheel hopped?
that means all the TJ's would to then since its the exact same suspension
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