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HI Every one
I'm a Vietnam veteran because I served "overseas"all though I did not have to serve in a war situation. I hope you will check out the link at the top of my web page and make an "informed " decision on the upcoming election.
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I just signed the petition.
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American Jobs - Lost to Other Countries

_Teresa Heinz Kerry owns_:
//*HEINZ JAPAN LTD* - Tokyo, Japan
/*HEINZ-UFE LTD.* - Guangzhou, People's Republic of China/
/*HEINZ COSCO* - Qingdao, People's Republic of China
*HEINZ KOREA LTD.* - Inchon, South Korea
*HEINZ WIN CHANCE LTD.* - Bangkok, Thailand
*PT HEINZ ABC INDONESIA* - Jakarta, Indonesia
*PT HEINZ SUPRAMA* - Surabaya, Indonesia
*HEINZ UFC PHILIPPINES* - Manila, the Philippines
*HEINZ HONG KONG LIMITED* - Wanchai, Hong Kong
*H. J. HEINZ (Botswana) (Proprietary) LTD.* - Gaborone, Botswana
*KGALAGADI SOAP INDUSTRIES (Pty) LTD.* - Gaborone, Botswana
*REFINED OIL PRODUCTS (Pty) LTD.* - Gaborone, Botswana
*OLIVINE INDUSTRIES (Private) LIMITED* - Harare, Zimbabwe
*CHEGUTU CANNERS (Pvt) LTD.* - Chegutu, Zimbabwe
*HEINZ SOUTH AFRICA (PTY) LTD.* - Johannesburg, South Africa
*HEINZ WELLINGTON'S (PTY) LTD.* - Wellington, South Africa
*HEINZ EUROPE* - Hayes, Middlesex, England
*H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED* - Hayes Park, Hayes, Middlesex, England
*H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED* - Rovereto, Italy
*H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED* - Telford, England
*JOHN WEST FOODS LIMITED* - Liverpool, England
*H.J. HEINZ COMPANY OF CANADA LTD* - North York, Ontario, Canada
*OMSTEAD FOODS LIMITED* - Wheatley, Ontario, Canada
*ALIMENTOS HEINZ C.A.* - Caracas, Venezuela
*HEINZ ITALIA S.r.l.* - Milan, Italy
*FATTORIA SCALDASOLE, S.p.a.* - Monguzzo, Italy
*HEINZ POLSKA Sp. Z.O.O.* - Warsaw, Poland
*PUDLISZKI S.A.* - Pudliszki, Poland
*WODZISLAW, SA.* - Wodzislaw, Poland
*ETS. PAULET S.A.* - Douarnenez, France
*H. J. HEINZ FROZEN S.A.R.L.* - Paris, France
*HEINZ IBERICA S.A.* - Madrid, Spain
*IDAL (Industrias de Alimentac√£, Lda.)* - Lisbon, Portugal
*MIEDZYCHOD S.A.* - Miedzychod, Poland
*HEINZ C.I.S.* - Moscow, Russia
*HEINZ GEORGIEVSK *- Georgievsk, Russia
*H. J. HEINZ GMBH *- D√¬Ē √¬ď¬•ldorf, Germany
*SONNEN BASSERMANN* - Seesen, Germany
*HAK BV* - The Netherlands
*FOODMARK* - The Netherlands
*H. J. HEINZ B.V.* - Elst, The Netherlands
*H. J. HEINZ BELGIUM S.A.* - Brussels, Belgium
*SERV-A-PORTION* - Turnhout, Belgium
*Arimpex Industrie Alimentari S.R.L*. - Rovereto, Italy
*Comexo S.A*. - Chateaurenard, France
*HEINZ EUROPE - UK and IRELAND* - Factories: Chorley,
Fakenham, Grimsby, Kendal, Kitt Green, Leaminton, Luton,
Okehampton, Telford, Westwick/

*Think of the conflict of interest a President would have who's wife owns business interests in all of these countries...
I don't think John Kerry's Vietnam service is going to make people look the other way on this stuff.

He He -- and he criticizes Chaney for previously being part of Hallibuton!

Chaney quit his position and sold his stocks. Will Kerry divorce her?

John Kerry says he is going to stop American jobs from going overseas
Don't count on it! */
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Heck, I read somewhere that your state was thinking of joining as a French foreign colony if JFK is elected.
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First off, I am Canadian. The US elections are of little interest to me. All of the rant below is IMHO! I do not intend to PO anybody. If I do, I'm already very sorry.

My mother often said "there are two things you don't discuss in public, religion and politics". She is right about both. I don't agree with anyone using the board as an electoral propaganda machine. That being said, and the door already being opened, I do have certain opinions about how I would choose (if I were an American) the next leader of my country.

It is of little concern to me how the multi-national company that a candidate's wife is heir to, develop a business network across the globe. It is incorrect for me to assume that because they have holdings in many countries that this would somehow affect jobs in my country. Many truly American companies have holdings worldwide, GM, Ford, HP, IBM, Coca Cola and Pepsi to name a few. There are many others. At the same time, you don't seem to see that a candidate very tightly connected to the oil industry, who created war under what we know now as incorrect intelligence (read: false pretences) is trying to create a less hostile and more open trade route to more oil. Odd how quickly he helps (attacks) countries fight terrorism that have oil. "That just a coincidence"....Ya sure it is.

Canadians tend to be a lot less "Visual" patriots. We are not much of a flag-waving, color-carring, chest-thumping country. We do, however, have pride. We do realize that we are part of the world around us. We have success in global markets and we support other countryís global markets. We buy and sell Canadian products as well as products from other countries. It is important for us to be respected by the rest of the planet. To get respect you must give respect. As a Canadian I don't see the US as a very respectful or very well respected country. This is not to say that Canada doesn't respect the US, but that other countries don't. In the eyes of an outsider, you are seen by many as bullies and self-centred. A hundred years ago you could get away with the very close-minded "to hell with the rest of the world" attitude. Today, in a global market, in a world striving for peace and unity, you can't get away with that. Well, actually, you can, but it doesn't make anybody look up to you. Someone on this BBS has "respect can only be earned" as a signature, that is the truth.

As an outsider, I see John Kerry as a chance for the US to change the face that people around the world have grown to dislike, and a chance for the US to regain lost respect. "We don't care if they like us", well, that's not totally true. The US has concerns that it's global position is not good. They just don't tell you that on the news.

Do not take this as an endorsement for John Kerry, If I were voting, I would choose change. Given the fact that the US is almost a two-party system, I would be left with only one choice. I do believe, however, he is a very good choice.

"Choose wisely young grasshopper"

"I wish bloody Canadians would mind there own business!"
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I'm glad my <nobr>vehicles</nobr> don't run on Ketchup. That's be a mighty expensive gallon. Especially after the election. [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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My mother often said "there are two things you don't discuss in public, religion and politics". She is right about both.

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In the NE right now there is a 3rd and that the discussion of baseball.
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Chaney quit his position and sold his stocks.

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True he had to quit his position when he ran for plubic office, but when he leaves plubic service Haliburton will reinstate him, in a heartbeat. As far as his stockholdings are concerned, it's an old trick that people who bounce in and out public office use. You sell your stockholdings to your wife, kids, your brother-in-law,or your dog. When you leave public service you just buy them back and you are just where you left off. Anyone who is not "hip" to that has probally bough swamp land or a bridge in Brooklyn.
As far as Kerry's wife, she is the head of a multi-national corp. Everyone in the world uses katsup, relish, pickles etc. Next time you pick up a jar of Heinz look and see where it was produced. My jar says "Mfd. in U.S.A. by H.J. Heinz Co. General Office Pittsburgh,Pa 15212". To my knowledge Heinz has cost no American worker his job, and has created jobs for others in other countries, some of them third world, thus contributing to the ovarall global economy.
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Hey Ozzie, you are a wise person. I just wish that more U.S. citizens had the ability to open their eyes to see the mess that the U.S. has gotten itself into.
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My Fellow Americans:
As you all know, the defeat of Iraq regime has been completed. Since
congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in
Iraq is complete.

This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces
from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now to begin
the reckoning.

Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which
have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The
United Kingdom, Spain, Bulgaria, Australia, and Poland are some of the
countries listed there.

The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the worlds
nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of
both lists later this evening.

Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those
nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved
during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi

The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world
Hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption.

Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France.

In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money
toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home. On that
note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will hunt you
down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth.
Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France, or maybe China.

To Israel and the Palestinian Authority. You, boys work out a peace deal
now. Just note that Camp David is closed. Maybe all of you can go to Russia
for negotiations. They have some great palaces there. Big tables, too. I am
ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France,
Germany, and Russia. Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring
from NATO as well. Bon chance, mess amiss.

I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN
diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking
tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded
and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps
have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or
watch your precious Benzes, Beamers, and limos be turned over to some of the
finest chop shops in the world. I love New York.

A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to
be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing
us off for a change. Mexico is also on List 2. President Fox and his entire
corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple
extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to
put em? Yep, border security. So start doing something with your oil.

Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty ---
starting now. We are tired of the one-way highway.

It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens.
Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them be saying, "darn tootin."

Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world
has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet.
It is time to eliminate hunger in America. It is time to eliminate
homelessness in America. It is time to eliminate World Cup Soccer from

To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks guys. We owe you and we
won't forget. To the nations on List 2, a final thought. Drop dead.

God bless America. Thank you and good night.

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in
English, thank a soldier.

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