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I just bought a 87 samurai. It has a removable hard top, but its in pretty bad shape. I want to buy a soft top, but I dont feel like paying a junkyard 150 bucks for the frame that I dont have plus a soft top too. I was thinking about just buying a fastback top. but here is my other problem. The sami has holes were the snap buttons should be, but no buttons to snap the soft top on to. does anyone know where I could get new buttons to put on, or if the fastback will work, with me not having any origional soft top parts? any info is much appreciated. This is my first sami, and it took me months to find a decent one. so its not like I've seen a lot to reference from. thanks
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Re: soft top problem

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You can get all the stuff you need at Suzuki John

But it will nickle and dime you to death. You might be better off buying a crappy sami someplace for just the top hardware. I think the fastbacks use the same snaps as the regular top, but I dont have one, so I can say for sure.

Do you have the pieces that go up and down the sides of the targa bar? How about the front moulding thing that goes over the windshield? You need all that to put on a soft top.

Where are you in mass, by the way? There's a bunch of us in mass and CT on here and sometimes there's good access to leftover sami parts. We can also help you a lot with other aspects of fixing up your new truk.

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I might have the verticle runners off of one of my spare targas and a hoop if you need them.
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Re: soft top problem

I apreciate the offer, but as dumb as it sounds, I'm not sure what the parts you offered me are, like I said I havent seen any sami's up close to inspect how the soft top works, so I dont know if I could use them. I've seen soft tops on jeeps, but I havent really compared. I live in northern ma, basically on the border of NH. If you guys get together to hit the trails and stuff, I'm def interested. My samurai is bone stock right now, but I'm always interested in finding places to ride and stuff. I plan on putting a calmini 5" shackle reversal kit and some 31"'s on it. Thanks for the website. It seems like I'll have to buy the fastback-$250, front garnish molding-$20, 8 screws-$8, I think the convertible top side rail, but I have to check and see if mine has that or not, probably not-$20, and male snaps-$20, thats a pretty nice looking set up for about $320. doesnt seem too bad. I have to get rid of that hard top, it looks terrible. thanks for the info
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Re: soft top problem

the sami soft top setup is real simple.

across the top of the windshield frame is a long thing that a plastic piece on the front of the roof fits into. That's probably the front garnish molding.

Then on the rearmost part of the sides of the targa bar on either side is a bolt on thing that accepts a welting on the front of the side windows on the softop. This is probably the side rail. You would need two.

The back part of the top hardware consists of a single metal hoop with some snaps on it that attach to the inside rear portion of the top over the back window. this hoop has a short arm on either end which pivots and sits down over a plastic thing on the top of the 'bedrail' right behind the targa.

What CTBrent was offering you is probably 80% of what you need. As for stuff like screws..screws arent $1 each at a hardware store. Go get a handfull of snaps at a junkyard or go look at a fabric or crafts store. Before you spend big $ on a new top, look on Ebay for a good used one.

I think you could get a softtop on your truck for a lot less than $320.

As for your choice in lifts, what draws you to the Calmini 5" s/r? Having run a few different varieties of lift, if I needed 5" of lift i wouldnt go with that particular setup. Its known to not flex too well because of the 3" lift springs.

If you go with 31" tires, you are going to want to correct your gearing somehow or you won't be able to go over 35 on hills and will have trouble going slow enough offroad.

Keep your eye on this board. Any organized trail rides for the new england bunch get announced here. We also have a large yearly gathering right around labor day called "Zookin" which happens in Westhampton Mass. There a few days of trail rides, an event dinner and raffle, etc. Its great fun and a great way to meet other zook guys.

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Re: soft top problem

Hard tops are rare . Maybe you can do some work to it and sell it. Probably help pay for your soft top
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Re: soft top problem

yeah..what frsuki said! I didn't think of that. If you post up in the "wanted" section on this BBS you might be able to work out a trade with someone for the hardtop. They are worth some $ even if the hardware isn't all there, etc. A long time ago on the BBS there was a big thread about hardtop vs. convertible samis. People were talking about the actual body style more than removable hardtops, but it was remarkable how many people wanted hardtops and had softtops and vice-versa. I had a HT sami and desperately wanted a ST, so I went so far as to buy a whole truck with no drivetrain from down south and swap the body on my rig. To compensate, I somehow ended up with two removable hardtops, a 2 piece and a huge, solid one piece. The two piece is for sale (but is supposedly spoken for) and the one piece is, too, for the right amount of $. I don't plan to run the truck in the bad weather, so I don't even need a hardtop at all!

Oh well, I'm off topic. (suprise!) In the meantime, here's a link to a website about the Zookin event(s) of the past.

Zookin Y2K*

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Re: soft top problem

Living in the Northeast, you may want to hang on to the hardtop, even if it is ugly.

I drove my zuk to work through some of the bigger snowstorms over the last few years, and I would have appreciated the extra warmth a hard top provided.

If you choose to get rid of it, PM me. I would give you some $$$ for it, and an old soft top, if you wanted.
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Re: soft top problem

wow, thanks guys. If anyone is interested in my hardtop, its a 2 piece hard top, it has no rear window, and the side windows are there but could use some ducktape (or something more profesional) to hold them in place better. Its white and most of the folding clamps are there. If some one is willing to trade me a soft top with most of the things I need I would be happy to do so. not all the bolts and stuff, but the main things like the hoop and the top, and other main parts.
As for the calmini set up, It attracted me cause it was a pretty big and very complete kit, plus its bolt on which is a big plus for me. I would appreciate lift info too before I actually lift it. I dont know if I should start a new thread for it or not. Thanks again guys
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Re: soft top problem

for the lift thing, dont start a new thread. It has been discussed here about 100 times in great detail. All you have to do is go to the search page and search on calmini shackle reverse or SPOA or even "which lift is better" and START READING.

If youa rent having luck with the search page, the usual problems are that people dont use "AND" instead of "entire phrase" and forget to include all posts.

The calmini kit is indeed bolt on, but that doesnt mean its easy to put on. Its also pretty pricey for what you actually get, especially if you plan to do any wheeling. The general consensus around here is that you are better off doing a simple SPOA lift, which gets you 4.5 inches or more of lift. There is a bolt on version of this lift available from one of the vendors, too. I think Calmini even sells one, now. You can work your way up wtih that lift by using rear samurai springs in front and jeep cjs in the rear, too.

The best thing you can do is spend a few evening reading through past posts on this board. This topic more than any other has been discussed to death.

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